[pianotech] Octaves & Unions

tnrwim at aol.com tnrwim at aol.com
Fri Feb 4 11:40:53 MST 2011




All the above boils down to - trust - I trust Cybertuner to hear all the
artials (etc that have been listed before) and the forcasted overpull
o tune the note as where it should be, so when you are all done they
re in tune with the rest of the piano.
So bottom line, I - trust - Cybertuner to put the note where it should
e - and - by the testing done by other people, its pretty darn accurate.
As I said - trust - just like you trust your ear to tell you where to
ut the note.
-- 
uaine Hechler

OK, let me try one more time. You say that when you get done tuning the piano with the Cybertuer, you aurally check octaves to make sure they are "pure". (I think they way you put it, you don't want to hear one over the other). But when you check the octave, (C5) do you first recheck the lower one (C4) with the Cybertuner, to make sure it is tuned corretly? Or do you just tune the upper note (C5) with the lower note, (C4) without making sure the lower note is where it is supposed to be? 

Wim

 






-----Original Message-----
From: Duaine Hechler <dahechler at att.net>
To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org>
Sent: Thu, Feb 3, 2011 9:49 pm
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Octaves & Unions


On 02/04/2011 01:31 AM, tnrwim at aol.com wrote:

     On the octaves, I don't bother checking until the whole process is done.

     On bichords, I tune the left string, then the right string to the left.

     On trichords, I tune the middle string, then the right string to the
     middle, then the left to the middle. (It all depends on how I move the
     mutes, but always the middle string first)

     Duaine

 I don't think you understood my question. When you tune the
 unison, how do you check to make sure the string you start out with,
 (the middle string of a three string note), is in tune with the piano?
 It could be that the middle string has slipped, so when you tune the
 outside strings to the middle string, the whole note is out of tune
 with the rest of the piano.
  
 The same thing with tuning the octave. After you have tuned the whole
 piano, how do you check to make sure the note you tune from, is in
 tune with the piano? Lets presume you want to tune C5 to C4. Before
 you tune C5 to C4, did you make sure C4 is in tune with the rest of
 the piano? If so, how do you do that? If you don't do that, how do you
 know that C4 and C5 are now in tune with the rest of the piano? To put
 it in barbershop terms,  even if the bass and the tenor are in tune
 with each other, if they are not in tune with the bartione and the
 lead, the chord is not going to sound right.
  
 Wim

ll the above boils down to - trust - I trust Cybertuner to hear all the
artials (etc that have been listed before) and the forcasted overpull
o tune the note as where it should be, so when you are all done they
re in tune with the rest of the piano.
So bottom line, I - trust - Cybertuner to put the note where it should
e - and - by the testing done by other people, its pretty darn accurate.
As I said - trust - just like you trust your ear to tell you where to
ut the note.
-- 
uaine Hechler
iano, Player Piano, Pump Organ
uning, Servicing & Rebuilding
eed Organ Society Member
lorissant, MO 63034
314) 838-5587
ahechler at att.net
ww.hechlerpianoandorgan.com
-
ome & Business user of Linux - 11 years


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