Interesting concept-using RCT or T-Lab to do a 0-88 tuning and letting the machine make all the decisions...yet, there are sure times when my fast progressive M3/4th/M10 up the registers and ALL the other tests that I use cause me to make little or no adjustments to the overall work (I do find washy unisons using interval tests-quickly actually)...which I suppose means that from time to time the machine does all the thinking for me.... I suspect that the tests one decides upon really becomes the professional "flavor" each tuner brings to the mix-his or her professional "signature"...because there is little doubt that these programs discussed get very, very good results... Interesting dicussion..... Rick Davies www.actionpianoservice.com Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect -----Original Message----- From: Duaine Hechler <dahechler at att.net> Sender: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 13:17:02 To: <pianotech at ptg.org> Reply-To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] Octaves & Unions On 02/04/2011 12:40 PM, tnrwim at aol.com wrote: > > All the above boils down to - trust - I trust Cybertuner to hear all the > partials (etc that have been listed before) and the forcasted overpull > to tune the note as where it should be, so when you are all done they > are in tune with the rest of the piano. > > So bottom line, I - trust - Cybertuner to put the note where it should > be - and - by the testing done by other people, its pretty darn accurate. > > As I said - trust - just like you trust your ear to tell you where to > put the note. > > -- > Duaine Hechler > > OK, let me try one more time. You say that when you get done tuning > the piano with the Cybertuer, you *aurally* check octaves to make sure > they are "pure". (I think they way you put it, you don't want to hear > one over the other). But when you check the octave, (C5) do you first > recheck the lower one (C4) with the Cybertuner, to make sure it is > tuned corretly? Or do you just tune the upper note (C5) with the lower > note, (C4) without making sure the lower note is where it is > supposed to be? > > Wim Let's put it this way, with Cybertuner, you tune from A0 to A88 - one note at a time. In your example, I don't tune anything to anything because Cybertuner has done all that checking (hearing partials, calculating stretch, calculating overpull, etc - basically all the checks you - have - to do aurally as - you - are tuning) in the first place and it - just - tells me where to put the next note going up the scale. This page explains it better than I can: http://www.reyburn.com/cybertuner.html -- Duaine Hechler Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding Reed Organ Society Member Florissant, MO 63034 (314) 838-5587 dahechler at att.net www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com -- Home & Business user of Linux - 11 years
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