[pianotech] price-negotiating customers

Gerald Groot tunerboy3 at comcast.net
Wed Jan 5 06:31:53 MST 2011


I hire my first cousins daughter to come in two evenings a week but, not
every single week, I don't need her that much.  I do not use her to return
calls that have come in during the day while I am out tuning, I do those
myself.   Instead, I hire her to book out the clients that are on a regular
tuning schedule - churches, schools and such - that requested being called
and booked by me.  I'm with Ryan on this one.  I DISPISE doing that job
myself.  Frankly, it wouldn't get done if I had to do it I hate doing it so
much.  The last time my gal came in, she worked for a total of 5 hours that
week.  She made $100.  However, she scheduled 18 tuning appointments for me.
It way more than paid for her time plus, I didn't have to do it!  My
favorite part of all J.  

 

Jer

 

 

 

From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf
Of William Monroe
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 8:21 AM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] price-negotiating customers

 

Hi Ryan,

 

I think most of what you say is well-thought, and good information for most.
One thing this model assumes, however, is that we are doing out office work
during hours that could otherwise be filled with tunings.  In my case, that
is not so.  I tend to do office work in the evenings after my kids have gone
to bed, and my wife is often at work (she's a nurse and works 3pm-11:30pm).
So in my case, hiring an office assistant (which my wife has made very clear
she has NO interest in) would not free me up to do more tuning work or shop
work.  It WOULD ease my work load, and free up my evenings more, but at this
point in my life, that's not a paycut I'm willing to take.  I think this is
probably similar for a lot of techs.  We don't take time from our tuning
hours to do office work, rather, we work longer hours and don't pay
ourselves for office work.  Not a great model, but in my case, hiring office
help simply means more expense, not more money - at least until my kids are
both in school which would free up probably another 8-10 hours a week.  Mind
you, I do continually look at my situation, and am always considering how to
make an office assistant improve my business.  And, I think it will at some
point, but not now.  If you have any ideas, however, I'm always
listening............    ;-]

 

William R. Monroe

 

 

 

 

On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 5:22 AM, Ryan Sowers <tunerryan at gmail.com> wrote:

Let's say you spend 5 hours a week doing office work: scheduling, billing,
talking with clients on the phone, returning emails, etc. (I think most
professional piano technicians spend more than that - my business
substantially more) For arguments sake lets say you charge $100 for a basic
service call that take's approximately 1.2 hours. With this scenario, you
could service 4 more pianos a week if you didn't have to do the office work.
Now with that extra  $400 a week you could easily pay a $15/hr worker for 20
hours a week. 

 

Of course this is an over-simplification: there is time and expense involved
in managing the employee and paying employee taxes, etc. But you get the
idea. For me it's a no-brainer. I simply cannot afford to NOT have an office
person. If I did the office work myself I would have to take a pay cut. My
professional service time is worth $100/hr. Why should I do work that a
$15-$20/hr person can do when I can be out at a client's house making $100
an hour? Not to mention: I don't LIKE doing that work. 

 

Now, I'm lucky because my spouse was willing to take a year-long leave of
absence from her 20 hour a week library job almost 10 years ago in order to
help manage the business.  Up until that point we were both working part
time and homeschooling our young children. We had no idea how it would work.
But with her leave of absence she could go back to her old job after a year
if it didn't work out. It ended up being a major turning point in my career.
At this point, if she had a total change of heart and couldn't stand to do
it anymore, I would most definitely have to hire someone. 

 

Saying you can't afford to have an office person is a little like saying you
can't afford to attend conventions. I say you can't afford NOT to. Only
through the relentless encouragement of my mentors and teachers have I had
the inspiration and faith to push forward. 

 

"If you build it...They will come" 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 2:01 AM, David Nereson <da88ve at gmail.com> wrote:

I barely support myself, and certainly can't afford to pay someone else to
answer the phone and make customer calls.  I imagine that's true for most
tuners.  



 

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