[pianotech] Bass String Length Mismatch Tuning Trouble

Terry Farrell mfarrel2 at tampabay.rr.com
Fri Jan 7 06:32:10 MST 2011


On Jan 7, 2011, at 7:51 AM, John Delacour wrote:

> At 06:49 -0500 07/01/2011, Terry Farrell wrote:
>
>
>> I don't have much experience with un-equal length bass string  
>> unisons that can't be tuned beatless being fixed with new equal- 
>> length strings. Has anyone done this, and can anyone offer an  
>> experienced opinion on whether lengths of a couple millimeters  
>> difference in the wrapped speaking length in a pair of unisons  
>> would commonly present tuning problems?
>
> If it did then most Steinway grands would do so.

Would do what - have beating bass strings?

>> Needless to say (I think?), I found all the bicord pairs in the  
>> picture below to be impossible to tune beatless - the best I could  
>> do was leave most of 'em with slow roll. A few were a fair bit  
>> worse. The wrap terminations are at the same position (equal  
>> distant from speaking bridge pins) at the bridge end, thus  
>> rendering unequal wrapped speaking lengths.
>>
>> The work on this Baldwin F blew me away - it was "rebuilt" by a  
>> company that is quite arguably the most respected in my area (or at  
>> least best known because of brand affiliation).
>>
>> If you ordered a set of strings, installed them and saw this,  
>> wouldn't you send the back to the string maker (after checking your  
>> measurements again to make sure you didn't provide bogus data)?
>
> Without seeing the soundboard bridge it's impossible to comment but  
> the stringmaker's "error" is pretty regular, that is to say that the  
> lower string of is consistently 3-4 mm further from the stud than  
> the upper one, so it's not just carelessness.

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If it's not carelessness, then it is by design? To what end?

> Most grands have the soundboard bridge pins paired parallel to the  
> stringing stud so that both strings have exactly the same speaking  
> length and the same length of covering, and the copper line is  
> parallel both to the stud and the line of the bridge pins,

As is this piano. (I presume a "stud" is an agraffe?)

> but the bridge pins on most Steinway grands are not paired like that  
> and simply follow the line of the bridge so that the left string is  
> quite a bit longer than the right one.

This isn't a Steinway, it is a Baldwin with the original bridges/caps/ 
pins.

> For looks alone, if for no other reason, Steinway strings are  
> covered so that the copper is the same distance from the bridge pin  
> each side and the same distance from the stud at the front.  This  
> means that not only is the speaking length different but also the  
> length of the covering.  If this has caused problems with tuning  
> Steinways for the past 130 years, perhaps someone should let them  
> know so that they can put things right!

Perhaps I will......

Terry Farrell



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