With grand pianos I tune each outside side string to the center string as I progress through the piano and my two mute method means that I'm not playing the note with all three strings open until a second pass unison check (unless I want to backtrack and check). Using two mutes it's tune center string, move right hand mute to the right, tune right hand unison, move left hand mute to the right, tune left hand unison. That way only the center string and one side are open at any one time. At the tuning of each side of the unison I drop in the octave below as a test and, as you say, that often reveals something if it's amiss. After I'm done I go through again and test octaves and unisons. It's a much quieter pass. Something to keep in mind in terms of our perceptive abilities, the narrower the field, the finer the discriminations we can make. So when you are going through and listening to notes that are generally very close if not spot on, you will be able to hear finer differences than if you are trying to make the same fine discriminations while you are engaged in the original tuning pulling in pitches from all over the place. Second and relatively quietly played passes always reveal something, albeit subtle. With uprights, btw, using a single split mute the final unison is pulled in with three strings open. With a split mute, tune center string, move mute to the right, tune left hand unison, tune next center string (since the mute is now in place for that new note), move mute to the right, tune left hand unison of the note just tuned and then the right hand unison of the previously tuned note which will now have all unisons open. Less mute moving that way. David Love www.davidlovepianos.com -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Ron Nossaman Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 10:18 AM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: [pianotech] The big discussion On 1/29/2011 11:01 AM, Ryan Sowers wrote: > I believe it means that when doing the final tuning of the third string > of a unison, all three strings are left open. I wasn't aware there was anyone tuning who *didn't* finish unisons with all three strings open. Is that really done? The best test of a unison I've found after you get done messing with it is to play the octave to a previously tuned unison. Even though individual strings sound fine in the octave, and even though both unisons sound fine individually, it's surprising what playing the two together will uncover. The more strings you get involved, the better your chances of uncovering something you weren't aware of. Ron N
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