[pianotech] teaching money,(was Irritated )

[JWyatt1492 at aol.com]

Hello !  Laura and All,
 
      Laura, you are teaching  two  ( 2  )  classes this year,
Unless you have changed your mind.    
 
Please don't.
 
Jack
 
 
 
In a message dated 6/30/2011 9:57:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
laura-olsen at att.net writes:

I should  check with Ryan  (and maybe he could speak to this), but I am 
team  teaching one class this year and I received 50% off my registration.  I  
don't know what the per diem might be or if there is one, but I think I 
still  got a banquet ticket.  I'm not saying it's bad, it's different and less  
than it used to be.    


Laura


On Jun 30, 2011, at 9:09 AM, Dale Erwin wrote:


Laura
And now the  compensation is even less?




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-----Original  Message-----
From: Laura Olsen <_laura-olsen at att.net_ (mailto:laura-olsen at att.net) >
To: _pianotech at ptg.org_ (mailto:pianotech at ptg.org) 
Sent: Thu, Jun 30,  2011 5:27 am
Subject: Re: [pianotech] teaching money,(was Irritated  )

It's changed, Wim.  Did you teach last year?  Are you teaching this year?  
While there  is some consideration, depending upon how many periods you 
teach, it's not  what it used to be.  



Laura




On Jun 29, 2011, at 11:43 PM, _tnrwim at aol.com_ (mailto:tnrwim at aol.com)  
wrote:




would like  me to prepare and teach a class for free, pay my own 
transportation and  room, and pay a full entrance fee to attend a convention in which 
I will  miss a significant portion of classes in order to present my  own?

I'm not sure when's the last time you taught, Ed, but everytime I've  
taught at a convention I got a per diem, a ticket to the banquet, and free  
registration. Yes, I had to pay for my own hotel room and transportation,  and of 
course my food, but then I only taught two class periods. The rest  of the 
time I was allowed to attend other classes to learn. And  as we have all 
experienced, there is also a lot of learning  going on between class time and 
in the exhbiti hall. All in  all, I think it's a pretty good deal.  
 
Wim





-----Original  Message-----
From: Ed Foote <_a440a at aol.com_ (mailto:a440a at aol.com) >
To: pianotech <_pianotech at ptg.org_ (mailto:pianotech at ptg.org) >
Sent: Wed,  Jun 29, 2011 4:23 pm
Subject: [pianotech] teaching money,(was Irritated  )


 
 
Dale and Mark write  the following: 
 

>>All  instructors that are willing to help perpetuate excellence in the  
continued education of our membership are valued, regardless of whether  they 
are sponsored by a manufacturer or not.  
Understood. But money still is the issue. The dues and  convention fees 
should be higher.  You get what you pay  for.<<


Agreed.   It is easy to say, as an instructor, I am "valued".  Of course I 
am.  The PTG, in order to maximize the profit of  the convention,  would 
like me to prepare and teach a class for free,  pay my own transportation and 
room, and pay a full entrance fee to attend  a convention in which I will 
miss a significant portion of classes in  order to present my own?  What a 
bargain!   There is no way to  justify that sort of expense unless I have 
something to sell.  I  don't have anything to sell, just some experience gleaned 
from making  mistakes for the last 35 years. If that isn't worth at least the 
entrance  fee and a room, then I can't afford to be a PTG teacher. 
   My  last convention was full of classes taught by people that were 
basically  advertising their wares or services. Their cost of attending is part 
of  their advertising budget, and selling their services or wares can make 
the  convention a profitable venture.  Those techs that simply have  valuable 
experience to share will gradually become extinct. This is a  loss, since 
the original idea of the PTG was to have an organization of  working 
technicians that could share their expertise.  Now, we have  an "institute for 
profit", and the PTG doesn't want to pay for the  content.   
   On  this course, our future is going to be one of vendor instructors, 
and I  really think that is going to limit the attraction of the institute.  
It looks like a downward spiral to me.  
Regards, 
Ed Foote  RPT
   
















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