On 7/4/2011 8:40 AM, tnrwim at aol.com wrote: > Joe > I hope you mean that you won't participate on the lists anymore, and not > the PTG. If it's the former, I hate to see you go, but you're the one > who'll be missing out on all the good things the lists do for us. All the new lists have done for me is essentially eliminate piano related discussion and replace it with hundreds of legitimate, often detailed, gripes about how incompetently it was implemented, the utter lack of consideration from those who stuck us with it without consultation or apparent care, and some yay-rah after the fact from a very few folks who haven't typically contributed much in the way of technical offering through the years anyway. > it's the latter, basically the same thing. PTG is here to help us be > better technicians. By killing the best educational resource they ever offered? > As I said, give it a chance. It's had a chance. How long does it take? No owners manual, no help files, no FAQ, no vendor support, with as lousy a user interface layout as I think I've ever seen, with anything we've learned about how to work around at least some of this thing's more overt psychoses supplied by the hundreds of VOLUNTEER (get it? the magic word) hours put in by the attempted users of this thing. That's us. The vendors are still a collective Claude Rains. We're the people that paid for this junk. No reason we're due even the consideration of someone who finds mold inside a cantaloupe and is given the common courtesy of both a hearing and/or an exchange or refund from the vendor. Nope. That's an unreasonable thing for us to expect, apparently. > Remember, > you're never too old to learn new things. I know it's a stretch, but there are actually some of us out here that would prefer to spend time trying to learn interesting and potentially useful things, rather than hunting workarounds in a piece of software that isn't even out of the alpha stage. If I didn't value what used to be a working pianotech list so much, and still hold some vague hope that this current list administration trash will (real soon now?) be replaced by something functionally similar, and as simply and easily used, I'd have been gone long ago. Ron N
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