[pianotech] Pianotech list and web forum stuff

Al Guecia/Allied PianoCraft alliedpianocraft at hotmail.com
Tue Jul 5 05:44:23 MDT 2011


Thanks Phil for that information. We needed to hear that.

Now I just have one thing to ask...............PLEASE.......PLEASE........PLEASE....... Let's get back to piano talk! I've been suffering from piano discussion withdrawal.

Al -
High Point, NC



On Jul 5, 2011, at 5:31 AM, Encore Pianos wrote:

> Dear Phil:
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> Thank you so very much for taking the time to bring some clarity to this discussion.  Your effort is much appreciated.
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> From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Phil Bondi
> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 11:27 PM
> To: pianotech at ptg.org
> Subject: [pianotech] Pianotech list and web forum stuff
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> Hi All.
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> Never in my tenure with this organization has there been such passion
> about the way we communicate. Bravo. Honestly.
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> Grab a beverage - this may take awhile.
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> To those who have written privately recently..there is no us vs. them
> going on here. If it appears a subject is being avoided, I am 
> respecting the on going discussion I am in regarding this list in
> particular. It's called "not violating a trust." My apologies if that
> appears to be negative or mysterious in any way. There is no intention of
> that. Ever. Not from me. Those that know me know me to be a straight
> shooter - you know what I'm thinking. Those same people also know they can
> trust me with any private discussion, and that is exactly what has been
> going on - private discussion.
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> Since I've become the face of this on going discussion, I feel it is my
> place, with permission, that I speak as freely about this
> subject.
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> You all have heard about why we are moving into the 21st century with
> office software and tying it into community/web forums/etc. While we were
> exploring new software for the HO, we also saw the possibility of tying
> everything together..which we still can, and keep pianotech the place to
> discuss piano maintenance, not what Phil Bondi said.
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> There's a big picture that some of you see and understand, some don't, and
> some don't care. There is no way that one piece of software, be it
> pianotech at ptg.org from the list serve or pianotech at the Higher Logic web
> forum that is going to please everyone. What we're after is content -
> positive content, and ease of operation. Have we made mistakes in getting
> the info to all of you? Blame me. I am the face. I'll take the hit for
> this one. I took on the role to ease the Home Office of the real
> possibility that this turnover might be an awful lot of work while they
> get comfortable with their side of the transition, Member Max. For those
> following all this, Jim Moy has said it best to date. The whole idea of
> this changeover is to have Member Max and Higher Logic locked into each
> other. They do. They actually do it well. I can hear some of you laughing
> now, that's ok. You're entitled. Again, I'm the face telling you that this
> list as you know and love it is here, and is going to stay here.
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> One of my concerns from the start was ease of operation. Mistakes were
> made by me in getting the word out to as many as possible. Some got it in
> the beginning, some didn't, got help, and are a part of that community,
> and some didn't want to believe that we
> disrupted this seamless(hardly, but thank you) way of communication. It
> has become more seamless over the years with the tireless work of Andy
> Rudoff and Ron Berry. These two have worked hard at making pianotech and
> every mailing list on the present server easy. Please thank Ron when you
> see him in KC. Truly he deserves it. I regress..back to the subject:
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> Ease of operation for some was not a problem. Those people actually have
> been a great help to us on the Higher Logic side..again the spirit of
> volunteerism alive and well. Unfortunately, that did not satisfy the
> people who didn't understand or did not want to change,etc. I have always
> been here to help, as have others. As others make the transition to HL, I
> will be there to assist as needed. I don't have all the answers to your
> questions, but I will tell you what I know. We can keep pianotech at ptg.org
> right here, continued to be sponsored by the PTG. It has become much less
> of a labor intensive job over the last 3 years. We can also have a
> pianotech list at Higher Logic. I am convinced where there's content,
> there will be discussion, and when I say content, I mean pianos, not
> anything to do with me. I need to fade into the sunset as quickly as
> possible and go back to being the behind-the-scenes volunteer I've always wanted to be.
>  Nothing would please me more than to see  
> as many of you to be as happy as possible, and keeping pianotech here is
> the best way to make that happen. Those that want to use, explore, utilize
> the pianotech list at Higher Logic are encouraged to do so. You may find
> it to your liking. Many do. Personally, I have no email coming to my inbox
> from HL except for the Board Of Directors list. I find that a huge
> improvement to my way of life. Logging on to a web site is not a big
> deal for me, and contrary to popular belief, I am no where near as computer
> savvy as some of my comrades on the ECC. I just have a bigger mouth!
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> Where there's content, there's discussion, be it here or on Higher Logic.
> Higher Logic is going through a big upgrade right now, scheduled for
> release at the end of July. One of the enhancements is the speed in which
> the site loads, a concern of many, and my biggest beef with them. If it
> takes too long, people get dis-interested. Improvements are being done to
> the library portion also. There are other items on their plate scheduled
> for release by the end of the year. One of them I am told is a vBulletin
> type feel to the site. That has been another concern of many of you. I
> wish I could make it all happen tomorrow.  I wish I could tell you that the ease of
> loading pictures is high on their list. It's there, but they feel they have bigger fish to fry at the moment.
> There's a mobile app that a few people have expressed an interest in. All of this is in our future with Higher Logic.
> I know my NYer has been tested!, and your continued patience for the 
> improvements we all want is appreciated. They are being heard and communicated.
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> Again, where there's content, there's discussion. Let's get this list back to what we 
> all know it can be. The rug is not going to be pulled out from under you. Frankly, the
> passion is back - let's direct it to the pianos.
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