[pianotech] [OT] Stuff Which Should Really Be on PTG-L

Duaine Hechler dahechler at att.net
Tue Jul 5 14:05:15 MDT 2011


John,

Well, John, guess what - Mac uses a derivative  of Linux - I believe based off of the Unix BSD.

Duaine

On 07/05/2011 01:22 PM, John Ross wrote:
> Duaine,
> You had my interest with some of the stuff you were saying, but you just couldn't stay away from your Windows bashing.
> When you first mentioned Linux, I tried it, but it, unlike Windows is not user friendly.
> User friendly wins every time, hence the popularity of Windows.
> I am a Mac owner, I changed over 3 years ago, but it took me this long to get weaned off Windows, I run it on my Mac 
> using Parallels.
> But haven't even used it in the last two weeks.
> John Ross
> Windsor, Nova Scotia
> On 2011-07-05, at 3:04 PM, Duaine Hechler wrote:
>
>> Mark,
>>
>> That is all well and good - BUT - there are less expensive and dare I say even - FREE - alternatives to be considered.
>>
>> The Open Source movement is very popular and aggressive.
>>
>> Pardon my French, but you can find damn near any anything from the Open Source movement to fit almost anything for FREE.
>>
>> You just have to do some research, look for it - AND - get over the fact that it has to run on "Windows".
>>
>> FREE Case in points:
>> Open Office (MS Office alternative), Firefox (Internet Explorer alternative), Thunderbird (MS Outlook alternative), 
>> VLC (MS Media Player alternative), Quasar (Business Accounting), and many, many more. Also, like eGroupware.
>>
>> The last time I looked - over 80% of the web servers - world wide - are running Linux.
>>
>> My take,
>> Duaine
>>
>> On 07/05/2011 10:44 AM, Mark Purney wrote:
>>> Ryan,
>>>
>>> You're comparing apples to oranges. A piano technician typically has a very simple website, which exists only to 
>>> provide some basic information and look pretty. It serves the simple needs of one person who makes all the decisions 
>>> without committees, boards, or councils. Clients are usually kept track of with a simple spreadsheet or database 
>>> program, and the website and database have no need for online integration.
>>>
>>> The PTG requires tons more technology to support the needs of the Home Office and all the other groups that must 
>>> work together within the organization, and the membership tracking has to be extremely sophisticated and flexible. 
>>> Everything must work together on a server, and there is a huge amount of data that must go back and forth to make it 
>>> all happen. To a non-programmer, it may all look like simple stuff. But the reality is that even the most 
>>> basic-looking functions on a website like ptg.org <http://ptg.org> took some programmer many hours to implement. And 
>>> when all of these simple-looking things must work together reliably, the server-side programming to support it all 
>>> becomes incredibly complex. It's more than we can expect inexpensive, consumer-grade tools to handle.
>>>
>>> The growing needs of our organization make it necessary to use much more expensive, sophisticated, yet generic tools 
>>> that don't necessarily do everything the way we'd like.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The PTG needs to trac
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/5/2011 7:40 AM, Ryan Sowers wrote:
>>>> You will also find piano technicians who manage over 4000 clients without having to invest in software that costs 
>>>> tens of thousands of dollars.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Duaine Hechler
>> Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ
>> Tuning, Servicing&  Rebuilding
>> Reed Organ Society Member
>> Florissant, MO 63034
>> (314) 838-5587
>> dahechler at att.net <mailto:dahechler at att.net>
>> www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com
>> --
>> Home&  Business user of Linux - 11 years
>>
>


-- 
Duaine Hechler
Piano, Player Piano, Pump Organ
Tuning, Servicing&  Rebuilding
Reed Organ Society Member
Florissant, MO 63034
(314) 838-5587
dahechler at att.net
www.hechlerpianoandorgan.com
--
Home&  Business user of Linux - 11 years



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