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David Skolnik davidskolnik at optonline.net
Thu Jan 5 22:27:42 MST 2012


Ron N said:
>>And I'm getting very tired of repeating that our volunteers aren't 
>>the problem. They have put themselves in a position of 
>>responsibility without power in an attempt to help.The people with 
>>the real responsibility and the real power to enforce (or ignore) 
>>anything are the people who bought the HL package, and HL themselves.

I never said or implied that volunteers are the problem, though that 
hasn't stopped you from going to town on Phil, on occasion.  Why 
don't you / we start by understanding exactly whom we are 
trying/expecting to engage in this desired conversation, because, for 
sure, no one is going to 'come out to play' if they expect to get 
verbally 'lynched'.
Clearly, and I do mean clearly, it would be inappropriate for someone 
from HL to engage us directly on this list.  So who?  With or without 
the volunteers, there just aren't that many people involved.  Not as 
many as there should be, I suspect.   Who's responsibility is it to 
address the concerns that keep being posted here?  If not Jim Moy, or 
Phil Bondi, or Paul Brown, maybe they could at least tell 
us.   Meanwhile, I'll ask over at PTG-L.

David Skolnik
Hastings on Hudson, NY





At 10:38 AM 1/5/2012, Ron N wrote:
>On 1/5/2012 9:01 AM, David Skolnik wrote:
>
>>I quoted RonN above because, to me, at the moment, the most insidious
>>aspect of this issue is the 'seeming' lack of engagement by the
>>admittedly few people in a position to respond. I understand that JIm C,
>>Jim M, Paul B and Phil B aren't sitting home/office waiting to reply to
>>each and every complaint that is posted, but the, perhaps unintended,
>>message that gets conveyed is one of indifference, which I know, in my
>>heart, is not the case.
>
>And I'm getting very tired of repeating that our volunteers aren't 
>the problem. They have put themselves in a position of 
>responsibility without power in an attempt to help.The people with 
>the real responsibility and the real power to enforce (or ignore) 
>anything are the people who bought the HL package, and HL themselves.
>
>
>>Reasonable or not, the expectations for the speed of
>>communication are not what they were, even 10 or 20 years ago. Or
>>probably even 1 month ago.
>
>The Pony Express easily beat the current communication rate. The 
>problem isn't the speed of communication, but rather the willingness 
>to do so in some sort of meaningful manner.
>
>
>>In addition to 'good people' working on the problem, there ought to be
>>some evidence that there is at least one 'good person' whose
>>responsibility resides in keeping the sheep fat n' happy, or at least
>>not spooked.
>
>I'd prefer something resembling the truth, that didn't look like 
>just another diversion.
>
>No answers yet, except the cost of the thing, but I'm working on it...
>Ron N




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