To the later, I totally agree. However, "Hygiene" has improved a thousand fold in the last century. Even more so in the last two centuries. Of course we have a long way to go, getting all to adhere to some sort of daily ritual.<G>
Regards,
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From: Euphonious Thumpe
To: joegarrett at earthlink.net;pianotech at ptg.org
Sent: 6/19/2012 5:09:43 AM
Subject: Re: [pianotech] OOPS!FW: Re: FW: Re: metro vac and blow (a little OT)
I'll admit that my immune system is not what it should be, because at 10 I fell from a tree and landed abdomen-first on a cinderblock. (And it hurt.) My liver was mashed like a turnip, and in the ensuing 5 major operations (and blood transfusions) I had 4/5 of it removed, along with my spleen. (The spleen is especially important to one's immune sytstem.) I had several "near death" experiences, was written about in the AMA Journal, and called "the worst case of internal injury to survive in medical history".
'nuff said.
All that that being the case, I'm still amazed (as are many physicians) that so little attention is currently being paid by most people to hygiene, when constant reports are coming in of "superbugs" ( antibiotic-rersitant strains of formely curable diseases --- most coming out of the "confinement livestock industry" ) and new diseases, altogether. So be it.
Euphonious Thumpe
From: Joseph Garrett <joegarrett at earthlink.net>
To: Thumper <parlorsocial at yahoo.com>; pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 1:26 AM
Subject: [pianotech] OOPS!FW: Re: FW: Re: metro vac and blow (a little OT)
OOPS! Darned 'puters! Allow me to continue, below
Joe Garrett, R.P.T.
Captain of the Tool Police
Squares R I
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Garrett
To: Euphonious Thumpe;pianotech at ptg.org
Sent: 6/18/2012 10:17:37 PM
Subject: Re: [pianotech] FW: Re: metro vac and blow (a little OT)
Now, Now,Now Thumper,
Try not to rant so much about this. Please? I know of what you speak and truly think there is a middle ground here. My experience has taught me to be very careful with an initial instrument. And, if it's the pig sty type that you so frequently talk about, I decline if it's too bad. And, I won't return. Don't care how much money they want to pay me! Having said that, I've had the unfortunate experiences just like you. The difference is, I didn't get sick. Why, because my system is different than yours. It's apparent, to me, that you have a weak immune system. Probably generic and, in your case, you need to be ultra careful, to the point of paranoia. However, don't think that all of us have this problem with germs. In the ideal world, it'd be nice if no one got sick and everyone was a sanitary person. Ain't going to happen. So, we do the best we can.
It's good that you are on top of this issue. I applaud you. However, if'n ya toned it down just a bit, perhaps, more would listen.<G> (I've been guilty of the same insanity.<G>)
That;s my take on it.
Regards,
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From: Euphonious Thumpe
To: joegarrett at earthlink.net;pianotech at ptg.org
Sent: 6/18/2012 8:36:40 PM
Subject: Re: [pianotech] FW: Re: metro vac and blow (a little OT)
I heard that stuff (described as "one theory") on NPR, too, and don't buy it. I've spoken face-to-face with "scientists" who hold this view ( that it would be better if we all went around filthy) and have found that each and every one of them is an "old hippie". (Still concocting excuses not to bathe.) And their houses can be just as disgusting as anyone's! (What kind of a "civilization" would we have, if everyone agreed with them? Not one I'd want to live in! Ever been in a crowd full of "Deadheads"?!?) A better theory, I believe, is that all of our immune systems are badly stressed by the (aforementioned) man-made toxins in the environment, many of which are cumulative; so it takes very little of an additional "nudge" to push many people "over the brink", into illness.And the reason those "farm kids" ( mentioned on NPR) are healthier is NOT because they're "exposed to more dirt": IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE BREATHING VASTLY CLEANER AIR, most of the time! (Sheesh!!! I some times suspect that these "scientists" get paid to think far too much!!!)Fun Factoid:I read that an epidemiologist combed his hair in a public Men's Room mirorr all day, secretly tabulating the percentage of users of the facility who didn't wash their hands after "doing their business". I don't remember the results, but believe it was about 60%. (!) He then took his findings to an epidemiologists' convention at the CDC, and secretly performed the same experiment in a Men's Room there, where the percentage of "not washers" rose by about 20. (!!!) Proving, in my humble opinion, that many "scientists" consider themselves "above" the rest of us!
From: Joseph Garrett <joegarrett at earthlink.net>;
To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org>;
Subject: [pianotech] FW: Re: metro vac and blow (a little OT)
Sent: Mon, Jun 18, 2012 8:50:15 PM
Joe Garrett, R.P.T.
Captain of the Tool Police
Squares R I
> [Original Message]
> From: Joseph Garrett <joegarrett at earthlink.net>
> To: Paul Williams <pwilliams4 at unl.edu>
> Date: 6/18/2012 1:49:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] metro vac and blow (a little OT)
>
> Paul said:
> "I have one of the Metro-vacs now after using a 50 year old Electrolux
with
> both suck and blow. It's nice, but tired. The new one has 4hp!! It
> really works well. I never blow anything 'inside the home or professor
> office" however."
>
> Paul,
> I'm wondering IF the Metro-vacs will last as long as the Electroluxes and
the Hoovers of days gone by? I suspect not. That "new one, (that), has
4hp!", probably doesn't. <G> The hp ratings have changed a whole helluva
lot over the years, especially with electric motors! I've found that the
1/2 hp (olde) electric motor had/has a whole lot more "umph" than the new
stuff, of the same rating. Perhaps someone can speak intelligently on this
issue.<G> It's good that "it really works well."<G>
> What's with the "I never blow anything inside the home or professor
office, however"??? It's their dust/dirt! It needs to be OUT of the pianer
no matter whut! Besides, there are ways of collecting that "blown dust",
such as wet sheets, or ???
> That's my take on it.
> Joe
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Paul Williams <pwilliams4 at unl.edu>
> > To: joegarrett at earthlink.net <joegarrett at earthlink.net>;
pianotech at ptg.org <pianotech at ptg.org>
> > Date: 6/18/2012 12:12:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: [pianotech] metro vac and blow (a little OT)
> >
> > Joe, I agree somewhat. Most dust and dirt is what you breathe in every
> > day just walking around. When we were all kids, we stuck dirt and
> > anything in our mouths, and I heard the other day (I believe on NPR)
that
> > the over sanitation of our homes is actually harming the kids with their
> > lack of getting junk in their systems to build up their immune systems,
> > now, kids' systems aren't as strong. So...more sick kids which builds up
> > the bugs that float around. I guess it's the chicken and egg argument
in
> & gt; a different sense.
> >
> > The more we can suck out of a piano, though, the better, me thinks. The
> > kids will find the dirt anywhere. So why not have a powerful 'sucker'?
> >
> > I have one of the Metro-vacs now after using a 50 year old Electrolux
with
> > both suck and blow. It's nice, but tired. The new one has 4hp!! It
> > really works well. I never blow anything 'inside the home or professor
> > office" however. I agree with the sanitizing cream crap for player's
> > fingers. I suggest just going down the hall and washing your hands
first!
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6/18/12 1:58 PM, "Joseph Garrett" <joegarrett at earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > >"Ron, et al,
> > >I 've been using a Dyson DC30 for a couple of years now for in-home use.
> > >Very compact, strong vacuum with good size capacity.
> > >Unfortunately no blow function."
> > >
> > >IMO that makes it worthless!
> > > I've been using a Hoover/Wards Vacuum for the last 39 years! It still
> > >does
> > >the job very well. Taking the bag out is a good idea, to get it to blow
> > >better, which is definately needed. I've carefully cleaned with the
> > >suction/brushes, etc., to the point of thinking: " I got it all", and
then
> > >turned it on blow and found that I didtn't!<G>
> > >All this stuff about "the germs" is mostly B.S. imo. Our society's
> > >penchant
> > >for using hand sanitizers and all the other crap to keep from getting
> > >something is, imo, a waste of time and money. (In a former life, I
was an
> > >Isolation Expert in the Medical Field, in regards to Respitory systems,
> > >etc.) Our immune system takes care of the every day germs out there.
Yes,
> > >we should be cautious, but not to the point of being paranoid! BTW, we
> > >should urge pianists to wash their hands, but not to use hand creams
and
> > >sanitizers. The hand creams really screw up ivory and leave nasty crud
on
> > >the key tops and sides. The sanitizers degrade plastic key tops,
because
> > >they are almost pure alcohol. The rest of those have nasty gel
substances
> > >and other goo that really slimes up the keys. Yuck! AND, while I'm at
it,
> > >I
> > >wish all those plug in SMELL products would disappear! I'm allergic to
> > >most
> > >and have to tell clients to not use them 24 hours before I get there.
Many
> > >clients over-do that, to the point of pure insanity! (The world ain't a
> > >damned rose garden!<G>)
> > >Just my take on all of that.
> > >Joe
> > >
> > >Joe Garrett, R.P.T.
> > >Captain of the Tool Police
> > >Squares R I
> > >
> > >
> >
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