[pianotech] ETD tuning Vs Aural- Some Wisdom

[tnrwim at aol.com]

Be that is it may - or may not - but I can tell you, that I'm certain of, there 
re more persons tuning with ETD's - 
NLY - and growing every year !!!!
So take this little story to the bank:
uppose a new tech that wants to tune - and - make a living. He is faced with 
wo options - learning the quickest way, 
TD - or the more laborious and most time consuming way, Aural Tuning. And since 
e has heard that it has been time 
ested that it is very hard to tell them apart. I will bet the bank, he will 
ake the easy way - the ETD.
So you and your "pig headed or arrogant" friends get over this FACT !!!!!
-- 
uaine Hechler

I knew I shouldn't have got into this argument again with you. Sometimes it's better to just let the idiot win to make him feel good

End of my communication with you

Wim



 



-----Original Message-----
From: Duaine Hechler <dahechler at att.net>
To: pianotech <pianotech at ptg.org>
Sent: Sun, May 27, 2012 8:35 pm
Subject: Re: [pianotech] ETD tuning Vs Aural- Some Wisdom


On 05/28/2012 01:08 AM, tnrwim at aol.com wrote:

     There you go again - making assumptions - do you know this for a fact ?

     Remember what assume means ?!




 OK, so I don't know for a fact that all symphony and studio tuners use ETD 
xclusively. There probably are a few 
 "tooner" who only use an ETD at symphony halls and for studios. But I do know 
 LOT of studio and symphony tuners (A 
 lot more than you do), who use an ETD only as a means to get to the end 
esult.
 But never mind about who uses them.    You said, "B. S. - that is way - at 
east, one reason - the ETD's were 
 developed."  I'm sorry Duaine, ETD were NOT developed to take the place of 
ural tuners. As I said before, The only 
 reason ETD's were developed was to HELP aural tuners.

 Then you asked the question. "so what happens when a person can't, for what 
ver reason, learn the aural tuning skills 
 (enough to do a full tuning) - not tune at all."
 Yes, that's basically what I, and a lot of other tuners, are telling you. If 
ou can't, for what ever reason, learn 
 aural tuning skills, then hang it up. You're doing our profession a disservice 
y claiming you know how to tune a 
 piano, when all you're doing is looking at a dial to tell when a note is in 
une. Checking octaves is not tuning a 
 piano. Tuning unisons is not tuning a piano. A lot of people who are not piano 
uners can tell when an octave or a 
 unisons is out of tune, and some of them can probably correct them, if need 
e.  I'm not just picking on you, btw. I 
 would have this same conversation with any "tooner" who only uses an ETD,  and 
efuses to try to learn basic aural 
 tuning skills. It's just that you're either too pig headed, or arrogant, to 
nderstand what we've been trying to tell 
 you for the past couple of years.
 Wim

e that is it may - or may not - but I can tell you, that I'm certain of, there 
re more persons tuning with ETD's - 
NLY - and growing every year !!!!
So take this little story to the bank:
uppose a new tech that wants to tune - and - make a living. He is faced with 
wo options - learning the quickest way, 
TD - or the more laborious and most time consuming way, Aural Tuning. And since 
e has heard that it has been time 
ested that it is very hard to tell them apart. I will bet the bank, he will 
ake the easy way - the ETD.
So you and your "pig headed or arrogant" friends get over this FACT !!!!!
-- 
uaine Hechler
iano, Player Piano, Pump Organ
uning, Servicing&  Rebuilding
eed Organ Society Member
lorissant, MO 63034
314) 838-5587
ahechler at att.net
ww.hechlerpianoandorgan.com
-
ome&  Business user of Linux - 11 years

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