[pianotech] Don't leave!

[John Formsma]

Dale,

Thank you very much for posting this.

Yes, a bit of grace is in order. Thanks for the reminder. :-)

-- 
John Formsma, still an RPT
Blue Mountain, MS



On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Dale Erwin <erwinspiano at aol.com> wrote:

> Good post Mark
> I spoke with my friend Jim Colman at length this am. A. Couple facts to
> consider. Jim loves this list but has no vote on these or any other issue
> the board comes up with. He has read about 1700 posts on the subject since
> this started. he does care but he is only one voice. So influence yes,
> vote...nada. The post notifying list  closure that was not posted to us
> here was an oversight and the reason Jim posted his comments. Jim says a
> major  blunder. So a bit of grace might be in order here.
> Ok, so the short version . HL is a leased program which can go away if
> delegates vote for it to. So step up, go to counsel, make our voices heard.
> As it is said" I have met the enemy and its us". Can be true if we do not
> participate. I told Jim much  damage has been done and many of us are
> really ticked off, including me, and that the Indians are leaving the HL
> reservation never to return.
> That said , Marks letter reminds this anti- organizational left over 60s
> rebel of the intrinsic value we have all received from the org.and indeed
> no baby should be thrown out with the bathe water... Much as I,d like to
>  at times.
> I remind Jim that much of the lists members contributions are not
> political but educational, ie tech tips, forum and such in the journal.
> Convention teacher etc. He totally gets that. He is not the enemy.
> Anyway HL will disappear from non use or because we made our voices heard
> thru organizational channels. The. Choice is ours brethren
> Kind regard
> Dale.....still an Rpt
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 26, 2013, at 2:00 PM, Mark Schecter <mark at schecterpiano.com> wrote:
>
> > Friends,
> >
> > I want to express my concern that people are so disgusted with HL that
> they are considering dropping out of PTG. I know that the response to
> problems with HL from the powers that be has been tone-deaf and
> unsatisfactory. To me, to us, it's obvious that pianotech should not be
> discontinued, and it's understandable that people would move to create and
> join an alternative off-campus that fulfills the same purpose in an
> agreeable way. I have already signed up, and would continue with it as
> before, regardless.
> >
> > But, while I recognize that pianotech is one of the main features of
> interest of PTG on the day-to-day, are there not other longer-range values
> of the organization beyond the list? For example, conventions, classes,
> professional camaraderie, long-term friendships, public recognition, and
> strength in numbers? Would we really rather be affiliated only through
> Google, and otherwise acting as lone wolves?
> >
> > I, for one, value highly the knowledge and experience of the people on
> this list, and would not like the prospect of losing access, were there no
> alternative. But there is an alternative, and it's not too difficult, no
> matter which substitute wins out in the long run. But I also value highly
> the knowledge and experience of other members of PTG who don't necessarily
> participate much if at all on this or other mail lists. For myself, while I
> am frustrated at the poor performance of HL and would like it replaced with
> something good, I can't see quitting the only professional organization of
> piano techs over it, and living in limbo ever after. That to me is really
> throwing out the baby with the bathwater, and I would deeply regret the
> loss of fellowship that I imagine would ensue.
> >
> > Could we not come up with a satisfactory way to communicate via email,
> and yet continue to support and develop PTG? It has been too important to
> me to just watching the impending departure of some of our most valuable
> members, without at least questioning whether the emotions of the moment
> might not moderate with time and action towards a solution to the current
> problem. In other words, please don't go! We can fix this.
> >
> > ~Mark Schecter, RPT
>
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