Thank you for sharing this with us, Dale, but if Jim has read 1700 posts about this, he really should have written to the list about his position. Until his one letter, written even as people were threatening to quit the Guild, he has been dead silent about the whole situation. Leaders lead by communicating, is what I'm trying to say. Best, Susan Dale Erwin wrote: > Good post Mark > I spoke with my friend Jim Colman at length this am. A. Couple facts to consider. Jim loves this list but has no vote on these or any other issue the board comes up with. He has read about 1700 posts on the subject since this started. he does care but he is only one voice. So influence yes, vote...nada. The post notifying list closure that was not posted to us here was an oversight and the reason Jim posted his comments. Jim says a major blunder. So a bit of grace might be in order here. > Ok, so the short version . HL is a leased program which can go away if delegates vote for it to. So step up, go to counsel, make our voices heard. As it is said" I have met the enemy and its us". Can be true if we do not participate. I told Jim much damage has been done and many of us are really ticked off, including me, and that the Indians are leaving the HL reservation never to return. > That said , Marks letter reminds this anti- organizational left over 60s rebel of the intrinsic value we have all received from the org.and indeed no baby should be thrown out with the bathe water... Much as I,d like to at times. > I remind Jim that much of the lists members contributions are not political but educational, ie tech tips, forum and such in the journal. Convention teacher etc. He totally gets that. He is not the enemy. > Anyway HL will disappear from non use or because we made our voices heard thru organizational channels. The. Choice is ours brethren > Kind regard > Dale.....still an Rpt > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 26, 2013, at 2:00 PM, Mark Schecter <mark at schecterpiano.com> wrote: > > >> Friends, >> >> I want to express my concern that people are so disgusted with HL that they are considering dropping out of PTG. I know that the response to problems with HL from the powers that be has been tone-deaf and unsatisfactory. To me, to us, it's obvious that pianotech should not be discontinued, and it's understandable that people would move to create and join an alternative off-campus that fulfills the same purpose in an agreeable way. I have already signed up, and would continue with it as before, regardless. >> >> But, while I recognize that pianotech is one of the main features of interest of PTG on the day-to-day, are there not other longer-range values of the organization beyond the list? For example, conventions, classes, professional camaraderie, long-term friendships, public recognition, and strength in numbers? Would we really rather be affiliated only through Google, and otherwise acting as lone wolves? >> >> I, for one, value highly the knowledge and experience of the people on this list, and would not like the prospect of losing access, were there no alternative. But there is an alternative, and it's not too difficult, no matter which substitute wins out in the long run. But I also value highly the knowledge and experience of other members of PTG who don't necessarily participate much if at all on this or other mail lists. For myself, while I am frustrated at the poor performance of HL and would like it replaced with something good, I can't see quitting the only professional organization of piano techs over it, and living in limbo ever after. That to me is really throwing out the baby with the bathwater, and I would deeply regret the loss of fellowship that I imagine would ensue. >> >> Could we not come up with a satisfactory way to communicate via email, and yet continue to support and develop PTG? It has been too important to me to just watching the impending departure of some of our most valuable members, without at least questioning whether the emotions of the moment might not moderate with time and action towards a solution to the current problem. In other words, please don't go! We can fix this. >> >> ~Mark Schecter, RPT >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20130227/c1ba65df/attachment.htm>
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