[pianotech] revising history, was Re: Free at last!

[johnparham at piano88.com]

Point well taken.
-John Parham

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] revising history, was Re: Free at last!
> From: Mike Spalding <mike.spalding1 at frontier.com>
> Date: Wed, February 27, 2013 3:31 pm
> To: pianotech at ptg.org
>
>
> No, John, we've all lost.
>
> On 2/27/2013 2:04 PM, johnparham at piano88.com wrote:
> > You win.
> > -John Parham
> >
> >> -------- Original Message --------
> >> Subject: Re: [pianotech] revising history, was Re: Free at last!
> >> From: Mike Spalding <mike.spalding1 at frontier.com>
> >> Date: Wed, February 27, 2013 1:23 pm
> >> To: pianotech at ptg.org
> >>
> >>
> >> And furthermore, the vote said absolutely nothing about shutting down on
> >> a specific date.
> >>
> >> On 2/27/2013 8:52 AM, johnparham at piano88.com wrote:
> >>> Mike,
> >>>
> >>> You're right. Even though the way is was handled was awkward, we still
> >>> knew about the vote from the minutes...five months ago...not one year
> >>> like I said.
> >>>
> >>> -John Parham
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -------- Original Message --------
> >>>> Subject: [pianotech] revising history, was Re:  Free at last!
> >>>> From: Mike Spalding <mike.spalding1 at frontier.com>
> >>>> Date: Wed, February 27, 2013 9:11 am
> >>>> To: pianotech at ptg.org
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> John,
> >>>>
> >>>> You're avoiding/evading my question.  You said:
> >>>>
> >>>> "For what it's worth, 1) we all have know about this date for almost a
> >>>> year because it was publicly announced"
> >>>>
> >>>> and I asked you to back that up  with some facts.  The only public
> >>>> announcement that I remember was a statement by Jim Coleman Jr.
> >>>> declaring that no, the 2012 Council would NOT be voting on the future of
> >>>> the Pianotech list.  Then, about 5 months ago, we all received our
> >>>> copies of the Council minutes, indicating that a vote was taken to
> >>>> continue operating Pianotech for at least 6 months, and research
> >>>> alternatives.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can you point us to the public announcement that you're referring to?
> >>>>
> >>>> thanks
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2/26/2013 5:19 PM, johnparham at piano88.com wrote:
> >>>>> Mike,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes, it could have gone much better, obviously. I would have been nice
> >>>>> if this last ditch effort to buy the server and to maintain the
> >>>>> integrity of this forum months ago when change was on the horizon.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -John Parham
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Free at last!
> >>>>>> From: Mike Spalding <mike.spalding1 at frontier.com>
> >>>>>> Date: Tue, February 26, 2013 7:57 am
> >>>>>> To: pianotech at ptg.org
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> John,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Are you referring to this tiny, vague, entry in the minutes of the 2012
> >>>>>> Council?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "C12-047  Ron Berry moved and Bruce Dornfeld seconded a motion to:
> >>>>>> continue running the
> >>>>>> mail list servers for at least six
> >>>>>> months and charge the Electronic Communications
> >>>>>> Committee to look at other alternatives."
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So, where is the ECC report on alternatives, or the public announcement
> >>>>>> regarding the decision to kill the list on 4-1?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I agree that life always finds a way.  I'm less disturbed by the death
> >>>>>> of the list than I am by the behavior of the killers.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Mike
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2/26/2013 6:26 AM, johnparham at piano88.com wrote:
> >>>>>>> Joe,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> For what it's worth, 1) we all have know about this date for almost a
> >>>>>>> year because it was publicly announced, and 2) I have never had a
> >>>>>>> problem with HL, only delays.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm sure this forum will morph into the next evolution just fine. Life
> >>>>>>> always finds a way.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -John Parham
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
> >>>>>>>> Subject: [pianotech] Free at last!
> >>>>>>>> From: "Joseph Garrett" <joegarrett at earthlink.net>
> >>>>>>>> Date: Tue, February 26, 2013 3:16 am
> >>>>>>>> To: "pianotech" <pianotech at ptg.org>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I've disconnected,(unsubscribed), from ALL HL offerings! At last, I don't
> >>>>>>>> have to put up with the Village Idiot! I'm hoping that ALL who read this
> >>>>>>>> and were sucked into the HL hype, do the same. I think if we send a message
> >>>>>>>> that way, we'll, hopefully get someone's attention.<G> I spoke with a
> >>>>>>>> member of the Electronic Communications Committee this evening and he was
> >>>>>>>> just as startled as I was to find that the pianotech list was to be
> >>>>>>>> disbanded. His recommendation to his fellow committee members was to fix
> >>>>>>>> the existing probems of pianotech and to continue it's use! Go Figger.
> >>>>>>>> Another example of piss/poor leadership decisions, imo.
> >>>>>>>> Regards to All,
> >>>>>>>> Joe
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Joe Garrett, R.P.T.
> >>>>>>>> Captain of the Tool Police
> >>>>>>>> Squares R I
> >>>>>>>> http://gpianoworks.com/