[pianotech] real costs of running a listserv list

Ron Nossaman rnossaman at cox.net
Wed Feb 27 17:11:01 MST 2013


On 2/27/2013 4:43 PM, Jim Moy wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Ron Nossaman <rnossaman at cox.net
> <mailto:rnossaman at cox.net>> wrote:
>
>     On 2/27/2013 3:10 PM, Paul McCloud wrote:
>
>           And if it's only $50/mo. plus volunteers, what in
>         the world is the problem with having both HL and the old system
>         running side by side?
>
>
>     As I've said, the only thing that connects for me is that it's a
>     personal vendetta of some sort, or somehow threatens someone's self
>     image. It's something petty and glandular.
>
>
> I've hesitated to bring it up, because I'm afraid people will take it
> the wrong way, but people keep asking, so I'll add my 2¢. It makes
> perfect sense to shut down the current pianotech and move it to HL. It's
> what I might do were I running PTG info-tech, though I hope I would
> perform better in the execution.

I agree on all counts, and pointed out two years ago that if they would 
just get the attachments working with email in HL, that the pianotech 
list would be unnecessary and superfluous. And just in case of 
collective short attention spans, I repeated it a lot. Nothing, except 
"We got Member Max, we got Member Max".


> If I am correct, then my.ptg.org <http://my.ptg.org> may still achieve
> these goals, because it puts some social media under the PTG brand,
> beyond just a normal web site.

By all indications, I'll become pregnant or smart before HL is made to work.


> But this also means I don't assign evil motives to those who
> think this is a reasonable thing to try to do for the larger PTG.

It's inconceivable to me that incompetence and a total inability to 
minimally address the questions asked during this travesty is possible 
at this level throughout the administration of any organization, but 
I've seen it happen plenty at all levels in CYA by denial policy. We 
don't have a clue what the intent is, because we haven't gotten sane 
answers from anyone about any of this until you came along with some 
system related information, but you can't speak to motive so we still 
don't know much except that the executive branch seems to be either 
brain dead or Keyser Söze.
Ron N


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