[pianotech] real costs of running a listserv list

johnparham at piano88.com johnparham at piano88.com
Wed Feb 27 21:37:55 MST 2013


Ron,

>Keyser Söze<

I haven't heard that name in 15 years.

-JP

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] real costs of running a listserv list
> From: Ron Nossaman <rnossaman at cox.net>
> Date: Wed, February 27, 2013 7:11 pm
> To: pianotech at ptg.org
>
>
> On 2/27/2013 4:43 PM, Jim Moy wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Ron Nossaman <rnossaman at cox.net
> > <mailto:rnossaman at cox.net>> wrote:
> >
> >     On 2/27/2013 3:10 PM, Paul McCloud wrote:
> >
> >           And if it's only $50/mo. plus volunteers, what in
> >         the world is the problem with having both HL and the old system
> >         running side by side?
> >
> >
> >     As I've said, the only thing that connects for me is that it's a
> >     personal vendetta of some sort, or somehow threatens someone's self
> >     image. It's something petty and glandular.
> >
> >
> > I've hesitated to bring it up, because I'm afraid people will take it
> > the wrong way, but people keep asking, so I'll add my 2¢. It makes
> > perfect sense to shut down the current pianotech and move it to HL. It's
> > what I might do were I running PTG info-tech, though I hope I would
> > perform better in the execution.
>
> I agree on all counts, and pointed out two years ago that if they would
> just get the attachments working with email in HL, that the pianotech
> list would be unnecessary and superfluous. And just in case of
> collective short attention spans, I repeated it a lot. Nothing, except
> "We got Member Max, we got Member Max".
>
>
> > If I am correct, then my.ptg.org <http://my.ptg.org> may still achieve
> > these goals, because it puts some social media under the PTG brand,
> > beyond just a normal web site.
>
> By all indications, I'll become pregnant or smart before HL is made to work.
>
>
> > But this also means I don't assign evil motives to those who
> > think this is a reasonable thing to try to do for the larger PTG.
>
> It's inconceivable to me that incompetence and a total inability to
> minimally address the questions asked during this travesty is possible
> at this level throughout the administration of any organization, but
> I've seen it happen plenty at all levels in CYA by denial policy. We
> don't have a clue what the intent is, because we haven't gotten sane
> answers from anyone about any of this until you came along with some
> system related information, but you can't speak to motive so we still
> don't know much except that the executive branch seems to be either
> brain dead or Keyser Söze.
> Ron N


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