---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Date: Monday, June 16, 2003 11:33 AM -0500 From: Joel Rappaport <JRPiano@austin.rr.com> To: fssturm@unm.edu Subject: German Certification Fred, I read what you wrote to the CAUT List and there are some unclear points although what you wrote is true. It depends on what you mean by the "certifcation system." If you mean from the beginning of apprenticeship all the way through being awarded what I call the Masters Diploma in Piano Building, the time is indeed several years. However, the schooling for the Masters Diploma (not actually required to take the State Exams) is currently a full school year, at the conclusion of which, the State Exams are scheduled. The requirement in Germany has been (who knows what the future will bring with the European Union regulating such matters now) that one must be a Master Piano Builder (Klavierbaumeister), as you explain, to run a business as a Klavierbauer (Piano Maker). Just 'tuners' are not held in high regard in technical circles. Where I think Ric Brekne is right on the mark in looking at the German system, is that included in the exams are not only piano technical sections, but also bookkeeping, teaching apprentices (which is another thing the Masters Diploma is required for), general awareness of how the piano developed through history and business subjects such as the financial and legal systems that affect running a business. Now, where this might apply to a 'certified CAUT' is not that there would be years of training and exams, but that the certification might display continuing education (always a plus point in a college or university environment) regarding the guidelines that are now being discussed, as well as training for teaching a class to piano majors, for example, or extra study concerning concert work. In other words, a 'certified CAUT' would have knowledge and training beyond that needed for an RPT. Feel free to share this with the List. I might actually have to subscribe to these lists in order to post contributions :-) Right now, I can't deal with the number of emails that action would generate. Great to see you last month. Hope everyone enjoyed the seminar. ----Joel Ed, Briefly, the German certification system involves several years of full time school and apprenticeship, followed by an exam regimen in which, among other things, the candidate actually builds a piano. Very much in the old world tradition of the guild. In Germany, this certification is required of any independent piano technician - it's illegal to hang out a shingle without one (there is an exception for someone who wants to hang out a mere "tuning" shingle). Bottom line, this is a very complex and cumbersome system, and one which will never happen in the US. That said, it is also quite admirable, and we in the US could learn a great deal from it. How to emulate? I'm not sure. Regards, Fred Sturm University of New Mexico --On Saturday, June 14, 2003 8:30 AM -0400 Ed Sutton <ed440@mindspring.com> wrote: > > Richard- > Could you say more about this, please? > Ed S. > > > But it seems to me that if one is first going to contrive some > certification above the basic skills required of an RPT, then it should > be more along the lines of what the German Piano Builder's certification > implies. ---------- End Forwarded Message ----------
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