This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Lance, Some inquiring minds want to know just what IS optical epoxy, where you = can get it, and what is your procedure? Mind filling us in? Thanks! Greg Granoff RPT Humboldt State University ----- Original Message -----=20 From: llafargue=20 To: 'College and University Technicians'=20 Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 6:04 AM Subject: RE: Value of an old steinway vertical I have 2 Steinway uprights (early 1900's) and plan to inject water = thin optical epoxy (EPOTEK), redrill and restring. I have done this on = several uprights and grands where replacing was not an option. Works = great. Nice feel. =20 Lance Lafargue, RPT LAFARGUE PIANOS New Orleans Chapter, PTG 985.72P.IANO llafargue@charter.net =20 -----Original Message----- From: caut-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of = Bdshull@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:31 PM To: caut@ptg.org Subject: Re: Value of an old steinway vertical =20 Hi Ed,=20 I agree with Dale about this. Here in Southern California an 1890's = Steinway upright might still have a decent pinblock if the piano lived = in this climate most of its life, similar to the piano Dale restored. A = few real clean examples exist, valuing those is tough since they are so = nice, and should fetch more, perhaps quite a bit more....=20 Original bass strings can be incredible on a Steinway, with even the = steel-wound strings coming out great after turning, a rare event for = that type of winding. =20 Yes, "ebonized" was common in 19th century pianos, if the plate is = clean and undamaged the word will be stamped. Also the Steinway log = will say (sadly, one volume was stolen from Steinway recently, and = wasn't photocopied, a terrible loss). =20 Bill Shull=20 Shull Piano Inc.=20 590 E Industrial Rd 2=20 San Bernardino, CA 92408=20 (909) 796-4226=20 In a message dated 4/19/04 6:24:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time, = Erwinspiano@aol.com writes:=20 hi Ed=20 Don't panic yet. I paid $250.00 for an 1891 from the Manteca unified = school district about 8 years ago. It was Bahama yellow with pretty = flowers & about to fall over. Its is the one with a myriad of ogees = elegant three piece front & the round fluted legs. The block, board & = many things were quite good. The board has a lot of crown still. = Amazing.Restrung with 3s or 4s,refinish,yes in original ebony, replace = the missing three piece cut outs new keytops. Very beautiful looking& = sounding. If I did this today I'd ask 15 k.=20 My opinion is that stwy uprights like this are worth anywhere = between $500.000 to $1500.00 in original & unbutchered condition. Hey do = the math on the items needed then speculate on the Market value in your = area.hmmm.=20 Dale Erwin=20 Dear List-=20 I'm dealing with a difficult situation with a customer who has = purchased an 1892 Steinway vertical on Ebay.=20 The piano has been restrung in the plain wire and repinned in the = bass, "turning the bass strings." The repinning was done with 4/0 pins = with apparently no preparation of the holes in the pinblock. Pin torque = varies wildly, with many high treble pins over 225 inch pounds. I = cannot imagine now how to restring properly without replacing the = pinblock. =20 Raising pitch 80 cents and tuning was miserably difficult, perhaps = tuning will be manageable when the strings have stabilized....?=20 Refinishing is a thin black lacquer (were 1890's verticals done in = ebony?), and the brass lock plate and pedals have been carefully = polished.=20 Hammers have been re-shaped past regulation, key pins turned in the = front bushings, and key covers glued to fit the notch, with the tips = overhanging, and no shaping.=20 The customer had hopes of buying a piano that would become a family = heirloom. The seller told her the old bass strings were so good that = they didn't need replacement, and that she could eventually complete the = restoration with new hammers and dampers.=20 I would be interested in your opinions of what is the going value of = an 1892 Steinway vertical, rebuilt to very good playing and tuning = condition, and what the purchase price of the instrument as it is should = be.=20 Also I would appreciate your comments on the pinblock.=20 Thank you very much.=20 Ed Sutton=20 Erwins Pianos Restorations=20 4721 Parker Rd.=20 Modesto, Ca 95357=20 209-577-8397=20 Rebuilt Steinway , Mason &Hamlin Sales=20 www.Erwinspiano.com=20 =20 ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/caut.php/attachments/6d/bb/26/3a/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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