Public Domain

Ed Sutton ed440@mindspring.com
Sun, 14 Mar 2004 08:37:28 -0500


Tim-

I don't see this happening on CAUT.
For the most part I feel the posts are serious questions and answers, and
professional exchanges of information, experience and opinion.  There is a small
amount of joking, not offensive, IMHO.  I don't recall that there was ever a flame
war on this line.
Overall I find it the best source of quality information about piano technology
available, a place where I can exchange thoughts with some of the finest
technicians in the world, and I'm very grateful that it exists. It has helped me
be a better technician.

Ed Sutton


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Coates" <tcoates1@sio.midco.net>
To: "College and University Technicians" <caut@ptg.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 8:22 AM
Subject: Re: Public Domain


> Richard,
>
> I have come to be disappointed in the influence of the listserves.
> Many times it is the person who is the rudest and shouts the loudest
> that gets the respect of the whole.   Yes, we already have a form of
> moderator.  It is a form I find to be negative.    The only way for
> this type of behavior to stop in the real world or cyber space is for
> people to start saying this is unacceptable.  You say nothing about it,
> it continues and is accepted.
>
> Tim Coates
> University of South Dakota
> University of Sioux Falls
>
> On Mar 14, 2004, at 6:43 AM, Richard Brekne wrote:
>
> > Tim...
> >
> > The face put forward by this list to the public is the least of our
> > <<public worries>>.  Nor does any potential detrimant to that face
> > weigh up to the negatives created by employing a list moderator.
> > Moderators are never, have never been, and indeed cannot possibly be
> > objective enough and you will end up with a small click of like minded
> > technicians patting each other on the back more then anything else.
> > There are tendancies for this already.... as there are in any such
> > community... cyber or otherwise.
> > Sure there are flame wars from time to time... thats life and
> > personally.... I find people or organizations that hide such natural
> > tendancies to be suspicious from the get go. People argue and fight,
> > then they turn around and have a beer together... head bashing has
> > always taken on many forms and in the end it is these dynamics that
> > bring out the best ideas.
> > With respect
> >
> > RicB
> >
> > Tim Coates wrote:
> >
> >> Yes the PTG.   Isn't your committee the controlling body of this
> >> listserve and  represents the PTG?  So you have interest to change
> >> all this?  What are your plans?  I have been dismissed before with
> >> the feeling that this is the way it is and that's that about the
> >> state of our listserves.
> >>
> >> Dave, I think I've told you before (correct me if I'm wrong) in
> >> private emails that this forum and the other one (I think it's called
> >> Pianotech or something like that) should not be public or at least
> >> controlled by a moderator.  Being public they represent the PTG
> >> because the PTG is sponsoring them.   The PTG should be putting it's
> >> best foot forward to the public and many of the discussions do no
> >> such thing for the PTG.  People have flame wars that make technicians
> >> look rude and narrow minded.  I don't think that does our
> >> organization any good to have that stuff out there for the public.
> >> There are details discussed such as what started this discussion that
> >> don't look good to the outsider.
> >>
> >> Tim Coates
> >> University of South Dakota
> >> University of Sioux Falls
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
> >
> Tim Coates
> University of South Dakota
> Universtiy of Sioux Falls
>
> _______________________________________________
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