Colleagues: I'm sorry if it sounded as if I was responding "testily". That was not my intent. It was simply a question. I have been on the ECC since shortly after it was created as an ad hoc committee. It was subsequently made into a standing committee. Tim's question "It won't happen. The PTG seems bent on making all this public" stumped me so I asked for clarification. PTG is a charter. It can't and doesn't have "plots", it can't "seem bent" on things. The course of PTG is decided in Council, is executed by the Board, and certain tasks are handed off to Committees. If you look at the Council minutes very little has been included that involves the ECC. We got approval to invest considerable money in the 20-year CD project (which has been recovered through CD sales). Some of that money was subsequently reinvested in producing the 3-year CD (which is currently being returned through sales). The Board did approve the purchase of a new server when our old one died. Other than that, I can't remember anything that Council or the Board has done that impacted the ECC's work. What I'm trying to say is that ECC sincerely wants to run the PTG lists and the web site as the membership wants it run -- within the funding and manpower available to us. In the past we have not heard any ground swell of sentiment to restrict the archives. If this becomes an issue, we'll certainly take a look at it. We'd have to try to determine if this really is a concern of the majority or just a vocal minority. We do hear from time to time that we need a moderator to censor the inappropriate posts. This is mainly a resource issue. We don't have the person/hours to do that. Just catching the spam, viruses, wrong addresses, subscribe/unsubscribe, "what's my password" etc. posts is a significant job. Moderating the lists would take a paid position. So, I still don't know how it was determined that the "PTG is bent" on something. If the membership really wants a change here it can be done. There is nothing "bent" that has to be "straightened". Please let us know. Very sincerely and non-testily, dave __________________________________________ David M. Porritt, RPT Meadows School of the Arts Southern Methodist University Dallas, TX 75275 ----- Original message ----------------------------------------> From: Otto Keyes <okeyes@uidaho.edu> To: <dm.porritt@verizon.net>, College and University Technicians <caut@ptg.org> Received: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:33:37 -0800 Subject: Re: Public Domain >He inquired testily....And in the public domain! ;-) >Otto >----- Original Message ----- >From: "David M. Porritt" <dm.porritt@verizon.net> >To: <caut@ptg.org> >Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 5:21 PM >Subject: Re: Public Domain >> Tim: >> >> PTG who? Where did you get that idea? As co-chair of the Electronic >Communications Committee I'd like to know from whom you got that idea. >> >> dave >> >> >> __________________________________________ >> David M. Porritt, RPT >> Meadows School of the Arts >> Southern Methodist University >> Dallas, TX 75275 >> >> >> ----- Original message ----------------------------------------> >> From: Tim Coates <tcoates1@sio.midco.net> >> To: College and University Technicians <caut@ptg.org> >> Received: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:53:56 -0600 >> Subject: Re: Public Domain >> >> >Susan, >> >> >It won't happen. The PTG seems bent on making all this public. >> >> >Tim Coates >> >University of South Dakota >> >University of Sioux Falls >> >> >> > On Mar 13, 2004, at 2:52 PM, Susan Kline wrote: >> >> >> This is a valid issue -- as we talk about embarrassments with >> >> customers, >> >> vandalism and security measures, our departments' budget >> >> considerations, >> >> getting along (or not) with administration and profs, the failings of >> >> famous brands of pianos, ripoffs from dealers, and various >> >> bloopers we have suffered/perpetrated in the past, perhaps we should >> >> have at least a thin gauze curtain lowered, instead of standing >> >> fully-lighted >> >> in front of a plate glass picture window? >> >> >> >> Couldn't we make the caut list available to subscribers only? It's >> >> not very restrictive, since anyone can subscribe. >> >> >> >> I did figure out years ago (during the flamewar period) that a general >> >> search would pull up all sorts of old posts from pianotech. It gave >> >> me pause, which wasn't that bad a thing. I thought of a few gems I >> >> had written and posted in haste, sheltered only by time and the volume >> >> of other posts, innocently sitting there in the archive for the >> >> rest of my natural life (and beyond?) <blush> >> >> >> >> Susan Kline >> >> >> >> >> >> At 03:08 PM 3/13/2004 -0500, you wrote: >> >>> Fred Sturm is exactly right. I just tried it. I picked a general >> >>> piano-tec item, and did a Google search. One of them took me to the >> >>> UK >> >>> Piano Page Forum, and another took me straight to PTG's CAUT. I'm >> >>> sure >> >>> there were a lot more if I had continued, but that was enough to prove >> >>> Fred's point. >> >>> >> >>> Jim Ellis >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> >> >> >> >> >Tim Coates >> >University of South Dakota >> >Universtiy of Sioux Falls >> >> >_______________________________________________ >> >caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> >> _______________________________________________ >> caut list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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