[CAUT] Scientific study? - Stainless wire (Help on the way!)

[Jim Busby]

Hi Dan,

 

Good point about the breakage. However, after the piano is strung the breakage is no more than other wire.

 

I hate to disagree (below) but the sound for grands (IMO) is actually WAY better with stainless. I put stainless on an M and the sound far outshined another M by it. Vince did a B which was placed in the same studio with another B and it blew it away. Totally. So far all I can determine for sure by preliminary spectrum studies is that it has significantly less inharmonicity. Boy, there is a lot to learn here! Let me know more about your experience with stainless. It doesn’t seem to be what I’ve found, but you’ve always had good insight.

 

Thanks.

 

Regards,

Jim Busby

 

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From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Dan l Tassin
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 8:42 AM
To: caut at ptg.org; Wimblees at aol.com
Subject: [CAUT] Scientific study? - Stainless wire (Help on the way!)

 

Wim,

 

Maybe you should have just settled on moving to 

Gulf Shores, AL.   That's on a island.  It's just like Hawaii

when the Hurricanes come through... bigger waves.

 

I bet the Salt Water/Air on the islands in Hawaii are real  "killers."

HOW do you move pianos from island to island ?? 

Oh, Hey !!!   Have you ridden the NEW multi-million-dollar,

3-story "Island Hopper" Ferry, yet ??  I wonder if they'll

let you move a piano on it over the water?   Man, I'd be

careful rolling a piano from beach-house to beach-house.

Can you imagine the time you'd have up-righting a piano

if your casters got off into the sand?   Sounds like a GREAT

place to push and sell Dampp-Chasers.

 

Be sure to keep your strings wiped off; dust off the bridge, hitch pins, coils, 

tuning pin collars, etc...  Vacuum and dust often.  BEST corrosion preventer

I've found yet.  [if one has 'new' strings]  A "dry" 2-inch paint brush and 

vacuum hose works wonders !!  I suggest removing debris first.

Just teach your customers what to do ...  like putting gas in their car ...

it must be done often to keep it running nicely !!

 

 Regards,

D.Tassin, RPT

Blair SOM Asst.

 

PS:  Oh, Wim?  How do you say "piano" in Hawaiian ??      Pi-oak-a-no-no ??

 

PPS:  Stainless is harder, therefore making it more rigid.  Might explain more

          breakage, guys. This would cause less tonal effect from harmonic changes. 

          (aka = not quit the pretty sounds we get tuning grands with strings made today.)

          It might be "OK" in uprights for homes and people who don't

          know how to keep corrosion from forming.  (aka: people who like to live

          with the doors and windows open all year round next to their piano.)

          I only wished manufactures used Stainless for Capo bars / V-bars / 

          pressure or down bearing rods under the strings.  There would then

          be less indention into the metal, causing less loss of tonal effect over time.

          It would be less (no) filing or shaping work to do when restringing.

          Aaaaaahhh, now, there's a concept !!   Cost??   well, shoot ... pianos

          keep going up in cost each year, anyway.   Wad-da-Hey !!

          Why do you think people are wanting keyboards now days?   Yes, they

          are easier to move from Island to Island.  I bet Magnum has a keyboard

          because T.C. can't get a piano in the Helicopter.

 

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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:06:56 -0700 "David Ilvedson" <ilvey at sbcglobal.net> writes:

	Another study:  will dampchasers keep strings from rusting in Hawai...?

	
	David Ilvedson, RPT
	Pacifica, CA 94044

	
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	Original message
	From: Wimblees at aol.com
	To: caut at ptg.org
	Received: 8/27/2007 1:49:57 PM
	Subject: Re: [CAUT] Scientific study - Stainless wire (Help!)
	
	
	

	In a message dated 8/27/07 11:49:59 A.M. Hawaiian Standard Time, jim_busby at byu.edu writes:

		Wim,

		What a great idea! I wasn’t even thinking about that, but indeed that is THE major difference, after all. Hey, I’m sure you’ll need some stainless in your new job… 

		Thanks.

		Regards,

		Jim 

	That's what gave me the idea. Just this morning I tuned a piano with rusty strings. It sounded OK, but wondered what it would sound with new strings

	Wim 

	
	
	

	
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