[CAUT] Scientific study - Stainless wire (Help!)

[Paul T Williams]

Hi Jim,

I rebuilt a 1932 Steinway L last fall. 

I did restring a Kawai No.600 three years ago for a church (I forgot that 
I did use stainless on that one as well...)

All the other jobs have been replacing broken strings in practice rooms on 
S&S, M&H grands.  LOTS of them!

I'm very happy in how few times they needed tuning before holding 
"steady".  I will be restringing another L and an A this school year. (as 
well as a ton of broken strings upstairs!)

Best,

Paul





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Paul,
 
Here I thought I was the only “crazy”, but I’m finding more people coming 
out of the stainless closet! Peter Grey, back east, has done five 
Steinways, and we’ve done ten here. Ed has used the wire for historical 
instruments. I know of a few others who have done one or two.
 
I would really like to know what pianos you have strung with stainless. 
Also, please let me know your experience with the wire. I’ll be helping 
Juan with an article soon and would like more input from other 
technicians.
 
I do have some old wire. Good thought.
 
Thanks.
 
Regards,
Jim Busby
 

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T Williams
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I really like this question as I have used only the stainless since coming 
to UNL.  I used Mapes in the "private" world for 15 years and wonder know 
why I didn't go stainless sooner!   

Also,Jim,  do you have some old wire in the corner of the shop somewhere? 
Old vs. new wire might be another study... 

Best, 

Paul 




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Hi Jurgen, 
  
You’re right. I can’t see why Americans don’t use it, except that they 
haven’t used it. I “went out on a limb” and experimented with it on one 
piano. Now after about 3 years I’ll use it EVERY time I can! 
  
I think the tuning stability has to do with the malleability that Daniel 
mentioned. It’s absolutely amazing to me that it takes only two or three 
tunings on a newly strung piano and it’s stable, ready to play without any 
“prepping” (bending, etc.) Besides the stainless factor I think this is 
the biggest reason why I use it. Instant stability. Good question. Thanks. 

  
Jim Busby BYU 
  
 


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Jurgen Goering
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Hello Jim, 
this sounds like a very worthwhile, interesting, and for me, exciting 
prospect. 
 
As a believer in stainless wire for many different situations and 
applications, I am surprised it is so slow to get recognition in North 
America. 
 
Among the things you mention, I wonder if there is any way to study how 
and why stainless wire attains such a high degree of tuning stability. 
  
Jurgen Goering 
Piano Forte Supply 
(250) 754-2440 
info at pianofortesupply.com 
http://www.pianofortesupply.com 
  
 
On Aug 27, 2007, at 14:48, Jim Busby wrote: 
List, 
  
We (BYU) finally are ready to do some scientific studies of stainless 
wire. This will be conducted by Physics professors/students here at BYU. 
Could any of you help me pose some “questions”, “queries” or whatever you 
want to call it, for these studies? 
  
One of our student piano technicians is doing his senior project and his 
professors (who we’ve bugged for years) are just now getting excited about 
this. 
  
Here are some things I’ve thought of; 
  
1 What are the actual differences in sound between stainless and Mapes or 
Roslau? (Spectrum, etc.) 
2 What are the differences in inharmonicity between the two? 
3 (how?) Do bass strings with stainless core sound different than other 
core? 
4 etc…. 
  
Jim Ellis, others, I’d really like some input on this. We have our ducks 
in a row so now is the time. 
  
Thanks, 
Jim Busby BYU 

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