Barbara, I didn't see how big a piano this is. 7' and above I'd keep two tanks if you are seeing anything under 40% Rh. Andrew Anderson, At 07:17 PM 2/26/2007, you wrote: >Hi Mark, > >Thanks for your responses about the Heat n Bond. I received the >information you sent to Roger Wheelock and am ready to charge ahead. > >I'd like your opinion (or anybody else's). Here in Central Illinois >we go through some pretty large humidity swings. I serviced, for >the first time, a Steinway B, in an majestic, though old, brick >country house (high, high ceilings, hot water heat), where they do >not normally use air conditioning in the summer. This piano has a >DC system, installed by a guy who generally makes "big deal" out of >a lot of stuff. Anyway, it's a two humidifier system, under the >beams; he attached plywood the same rectangular shape of the baffles >to the beams. Then the tanks hang pretty far below the plywood, the >baffles hang between the tanks and the plywood. Darn, why didn't I >have my camera with me. It looks genuinely hideous and I still had >to do a significant pitch raise, so I'm not sure how much this >installation is really helping. Then there is an issue with the >keys in the summer. I would like to do an in-between the beams >installation with undercover, and an added heater bar under the >keybed. I'm also recommending an Edwards string cover. I think >that the high humidity in the summer is the bigger problem. OK, so >here's the question. If I switched to a one tank system and used an >undercover, do you think it would do the job? My not very good >hygrometer said that the humidity level was at 28% when I was there >last week, so it doesn't appear to be one of those horrifically dry >environments (for winter). Would you automatically put a two tank >system in a B or would you only put two tanks in when dryness was extreme? > >Thanks, > >Barbara Richmond, RPT >near Peoria, Illinois > > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Cramer, Mark" <Cramer at brandonu.ca> >To: <caut at ptg.org> >Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 6:35 PM >Subject: Re: [CAUT] Undercover Heat n Bond > > >>The Heat n bond seems to renew itself as often as I have a chance to test it. >> >>Here's the rub though, as for the prospect of servicing the tank, >>clients have become as adept at excuse-making as some of our lazy >>colleagues ;>). >> >>When I repeat the simple demonstration of peeling back the cloth >>then re-sealing with a warm iron, I get the same look as from a >>teenager witnessing the miraculous installation of a fresh roll of >>toilet paper!? (Whoa dude!) >> >>I'm beginning to realize that no installation technique, short of >>remote control, will encourage (most) clients to self-service their >>humidifiers. So to that end, the "iron-on under-cover," though >>durable, is likely only as useful as the attending technician is willing. >> >>I'm happy with it. It remains simpler, faster and tidier than any >>alternative I'm aware of. But then, I'm also resolved to be >>babysitting pad replacement for all my favourite clients from now >>til retirement.... we do get to, don't we? :>) >> >>best regards, >>Mark Cramer, >>Brandon University >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Thanks, Mark. >> >>And how has the Heat n Bond held up? >> >>Barbara >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Cramer" <Cramer at brandonu.ca> >>To: "College and University Technicians" <caut at ptg.org> >>Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 12:01 PM >>Subject: Re: [CAUT] Undercover (install notes) >> >> >>>Hi Barbara, >>> >>>the last time I tuned this piano (December), the lowest tenor note (B2 >>>perhaps?) was 10 cts (9. something) flat, with following notes less and >>>less >>>so, until about D4, where everything was pretty much on pitch all the way >>>to >>>the top. >>> >>>Prior, the lowest tenor would be 25 - 30 cts sharp or flat, depending on >>>the >>>season, with pitches falling or rising incrementally well into the 5th and >>>6th octaves. It was also common to find the bass 4 or 5cts flat during dry >>>seasons. >>> >>>So I'll call this a success, though I've had more dramatic results with >>>other installations. >>> >>>Yesterday I tuned a GS-30 with the same installation. Nearly the same >>>curve >>>(15cts flat at B2 rising towards octave 4) though I suspect in both >>>instances, if the humidifier was never allowed to run dry, the pitch >>>would've been held to within 4 or 5 cents at B2. >>> >>>(Tattle-tale humidifier pads turn "cardboard stiff" all the way down, if >>>allowed to run dry. Re-wetting them won't change this... and "they" think >>>I'm clairvoyant ... ;>) >>> >>>thanks, >>>Mark C. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org]On Behalf Of >>>Barbara Richmond >>>Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 11:30 AM >>>To: College and University Technicians >>>Subject: Re: [CAUT] Undercover (install notes) >>> >>> >>>Hi Mark, >>> >>>OK, I'd like to hear the "rest of the story." How much of a change did >>>the >>>undercover make? (in cents if possible, please). I don't doubt that it >>>made >>>a difference, I just want to know how much. >>> >>>Thanks, >>> >>>Barbara Richmond, RPT >>> >>
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