Ron, I know I'm right, but Ric's point was kind of "What did you expect them to say/how would you react?" That's where I thought I was being narrow minded. (He's right. I should have known better) No matter how much you, Del, Ron Overs, and others can show how convention is actually wrong in some instances, things pretty much stay the same. I think it's exactly as you said earlier; "It seems to me that you can't typically tell people that what they're hearing in a piano is desirable unless it is from one of a handful of famous manufacturers." Jim -----Original Message----- From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Ron Nossaman Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 10:47 AM To: College and University Technicians Subject: Re: [CAUT] Brodmann pianos > Good points. I guess I shouldn't expect anyone to jump up and down with > joy over a criticism of their pride and joy... It was narrow minded indeed. Sheep dip. Don't apologize for being right. Narrow mindedness precludes consideration of anything different that could lead to the realization that there might be better ways to do things than we "believe" or were "taught". Assessing a different idea on logical merit and ascertaining it's actual physical merits by trying it is as broad minded, sincere, and practical as it gets. If anyone is narrow minded, it's the individual that adheres to the cantilever and short back scale while ignoring the potential for improvement of a different approach. Jim, you weren't born believing that moving the bridge to eliminate the cantilever and lengthening the back scale was the thing to to, and cooking up any old justification you could think of, however flaky, to justify your belief. You were introduced to the idea by others, and though it was different from what you have seen in pianos all your life, it made enough sense to you that you tried it to find out if it worked (and found it worked very well) - exactly as I did. You like the result, as I do, and don't mind passing potentially valuable information on to someone who might benefit from it, as I also don't. Being called narrow minded for doing so strikes me as appropriate justification for not sharing further information, if the attitude is general, or installing appropriate filters if the attitude is specific. But that's just me. Ron N
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