Just wanted to offer compliments on this and you last post. That expressed exactly the sentiment I attempted to convey. I thought I'd also dip into your second paragraph below.. the bit about the second of the two "false premises". Is this a false premise ?? If you strike the word "obviously"... then the sentence could easily be reflecting someones honest opinion about resultant sound. If on the other hand it is an attempt at declaring that longer string lengths "enhance" sound regardless of anyone elses idea of sound and regardless of any other design considerations... then the statement is on very thin ice indeed. That said.. what you follow up with about "doing the right thing for the wrong reasons"... is spot on. Our world (and most others) are more complete with this kind of stumbling in the dark then not me thinks. In the end much of what these resurgent ideas packed in new explanations declares will probably be revealed to be likewise. Grin... ever read any of the debates around Cosmology ???.. Thanks for two very level headed posts. Cheers RicB Okay, I guess if somebody says that having no cantilever, and longer back scale, is "better" and that this is something that should be accepted as a "fact" I get the impression that it implies that everyone else is wrong <G>. No big deal, I really admire and prefer the attitude that constantly challenges assumptions and authority. But sometimes there are dangers lurking in having "proven" the other side wrong. Granted, the pro-cantilever crowd justify their design on false premises: "it puts the bearing out in a more resonant part of the soundboard;" "it allows for longer string length, which obviously is to be preferred." This is twaddle, as you have very ably pointed out. But that doesn't necessarily make shorter back length and cantilever a bad design feature per se. Lots of people do the "right" thing for the "wrong" reason - and vice versa <G>. Regards, Fred Sturm University of New Mexico fssturm at unm.edu
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