Another thought is that you need to track whether it's the same strings going out of tune or not and which direction the offenders are moving. If the pattern is truly random and the offending strings are moving both sharp and flat then it seems that it must be an issue of friction through the bearing points. I don't recall exactly but I believe the pianos of that vintage have quite severe counterbearing angles which can create real problem in rendering the tuning. If that's the case see if you can determine in which section the problem are happening. I would guess that it would be the capo section. If so, you might consider ways of reducing the counterbearing angle (if possible), though that may be next to impossible without a complete teardown. If it is the same strings and the pattern is that the strings are moving flat then I would consider the possibility that the becket lengths are too short on the offending notes. At any rate, you need to get the piano out of storage and off its side so that you can try and determine exactly what the pattern is and pursue some remedy. David Love www.davidlovepianos.com From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Jim Busby Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 10:34 AM To: caut at ptg.org Subject: [CAUT] M&H "A" stability All, We have a 1992 Mason and Hamlin A that has had tuning stability problems for at least the last 8 years (since I've been here). It has been assigned to several solid tuners with the same outcome, so it's not that. It has been restrung twice, and the last time I put in a new Nossaman pinblock and made sure that it was installed properly, mated to the flange, horn wedge is in place, yaddah, yaddah. The last restringing was 2 years ago, and I still need to tune it about every 3 weeks. The pitch doesn't go up and down, but individual notes just seem to go wild. I can't say that it is the same notes all the time, I don't think it is. All the normal prepping has been done, checked and rechecked. Since it was fairly expensive to buy, and since it was a M&H I thought it should be in a classroom where they do masterclasses. After fighting it for nearly a year I put it in a practice room. Even worse results. Now it sits on its side in storage. Any thoughts here? I've been told that the tension resonator should not be messed with, but could this be an issue? What am I missing here? Thanks in advance. Jim Busby RPT BYU -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/caut.php/attachments/20090519/07c175c2/attachment.htm>
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