Jim, Interesting. All of mine are in teacher studios (theory, applied etc not performance) rather than practice rooms. I'd have to believe they'll last longer as the playing is not 24/7. Regarding the "improved" E series, maybe (just maybe) the engineers do listen to us field folk. =) Gerry C From: jim_busby at byu.edu To: caut at ptg.org Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:12:11 -0700 Subject: Re: [CAUT] boston comments Gerry, The 118E's are improved over the 118S's. I have 12 118S's (practice rooms) and they do indeed prep up to work/sound very good. However... They don't stay that way long enough for me. In comparison to the P22s they require about twice the servicing. In practice for me that means 4 week tunings for the 118S and 8 (well, maybe 7) for the P22s. But they are very easy to tune. P22s fight back a bit. The new P22s have especially tight pins. I'd take the 126s hands down over the 118anythings. Best, Jim From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of G Cousins [cousins_gerry at msn.com] Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 2:39 PM To: CAUT Subject: Re: [CAUT] boston comments Tanner, I work apx. a half day as well depending on the age & need. One did require a full day prep but is was 6yrs young. I do find that this is porportional to typical prep needs. All of ours are owned rather than loaners. Everyone,faculty as well as students so far have commented positively. Don't think they're trtying to kep me happy either. I've found they will critique quickly and honestly. IMHO positive attitude creates positive results. Also finding the 118's 126's etc workable as well. Where are your 178's? Practice rooms or Studios? Do you have any time (usage) references? I'm attempting to track wear & tear on a hurly/daily type basis to substantiate future parts budget for the entire inventory. Data would be helpful from another resource. Regards, Gerry From: caut-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:caut-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Tanner Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 11:40 AM To: caut at ptg.org Subject: Re: [CAUT] boston comments I did a half day regulation/voicing on a Boston GP178II yesterday. Very nice piano when I was done. Can't believe anyone wouldn't like it. I have seen the Boston get "loose" and bright. But like any piano in a high use situation, you've got to commit the resources to keep the flanges repinned, actions regulated and hammers replaced as needed. I think the problem we run into though is the "disposable" mentality - not spending enough on the cost of the instrument to warrant spending adequate money on service. Especially true for loan situations. (one concern that our recommended CAUT budget formula can be inaccurate) Tanner ----- Original Message ----- From: G Cousins To: CAUT Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 6:30 PM Subject: [CAUT] boston comments Bill, You had posted We have had Steinways and found the U1 to be a better instrument. I have also had experiences with Bostons at another university that I had worked at and was totally unimpressed with them. We do have Boston grands at ONU and nobody likes them. I'm wondering what, if anything, was done to the pianos which "nobody likes." IMHO Most of the pianos are delivered to the schools from the dealers with minimal prep. as possible. They just uncrate them, put a tuning (?) or maybe two and ship them out to the schools letting us techs do any finish work. Sure this improves their profit margins but it is a business practice that has been around in all industries. I have found, at my school, the teachers like the Bostons as well as he S&S 45's aka 1098's I wonder what I'm doing that others may not. ?? Gerry Cousins WCUPA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/caut.php/attachments/20091116/a56faf49/attachment.htm>
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