I believe I heard someone mention that the Ballistol-Klever worked well as a method of family planning....could be the odor. I've used the stuff gingerly and it seems to work. Haven't noticed any grunge buildup. Again, apologies to those who may have offended by my recent blah-blah- blah fit. The company in question is a bitter pill. I regard them the same way I regard a stray dog....suppress the adrenaline, try not to raise your voice, and *never* trust them. Ron Torrella "Ideal conversation must be an exchange of thought, School of Music and not, as many of those who worry most about their University of Illinois shortcomings believe, an eloquent exhibition of wit or oratory." -- Emily Post, Etiquette
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