In a message dated 98-03-04 03:15:16 EST, you write: << The wolf is actuallyG#4 Eb5. It is not tuned as that is the result of tuning pure fifths. It takes a keyboard to see this. Jefferson tuned 7 fifths up to G# and 4 down, to Eb. The twelth fifth then is G#--Eb Which according to Pythagoras would be flat, very flat. Indeed the spread sheet shows that fifth beating at 16.9 cps flat. >> It is much more likely that these 5ths were all tempered and that the wolf 5th is actually wide. This would have been some kind of meantone temperament but we just don't know exactly what kind. If the 3rds tests revealed pure 3rds, it would have been a 1/4 comma MT. I suspect that Jefferson merely listened for a "pleasing" resonance which would have meant that the 3rds tested would simply have beat slowly. Considering the era in which this was done, the kind of music which would have been played and the kind of instrument, slowly beating 3rds among those which were tested would most likely have been the goal. If pure 3rds were desired, the scheme would have tuned 3rds, not merely tested them. Since there was no control over how much tempering was meant to be in the 5ths, we can assume that the amount may have varied somewhat but that, considering the era, they were in the range of 1/5 to 1/6 comma 5ths. It is highly unlikely that Jefferson would have tuned pure 5ths in this scheme. This would have made the 3rds that were tested beat very rapidly. This would have been quite out of character both for his instrument and the music of the time. The curious ">>" marking may have been Jefferson's "fudge" interval. He may have considered the key of E, with 4 #'s as being one which could be varied or manipulated or he may have been sensitive to how dissonant he would allow his "wolf" interval to be. If he "fudged" on this interval, he could have made the key of E be rather bright and in doing so, mitigated the "wolf" thereby creating a modified meantone temperament, a very common practice. Respectfully, Bill Bremmer RPT Madison, Wisconsin
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