In a message dated 5/09/1999 12:12:53 PM, you wrote: <<"Buffing the holes out doesn't predictably shape the termination point, yet you report that it takes care of the pop/ping.">> Well I can see how it can be read that way and I apologize for the confusion what I "should" have said was ""It seems like Ron O's answer of agraffe hole shape should be the (answer to this) problem...reshaping agraffe holes does *help*. I have found that using 'abrasive cord' in a shoe shine fashion through the holes eliminates this problem."" What I was referring to was the numerous steps of hole reshaping and not needfully the "squeaking" problem although that is why the holes are reshaped anyway.............there, have I muddied it more? :-) <<" That being the case, I'm leaning toward the probability of a surface contaminant (oxidation, or whatever) in the hole, which is cleaned off by buffing or reshaping.">> One of lifes paradoxes is that two shiny sirfaces will slide easier across each other but "squeak" more than two less "shiny" surfaces............... I don't advocate buffing as in making the hole shiny, rather buffing as in shoeshine fashion for a 'few' (as in two or three) short strokes. I agree that the "contaminant" problem plays a role in "squeaking" problems. <<"I was just looking for education after the fact.">> Isn't this when we all look for it? :-)) Finally........I 'have' had agraffes "squeak" even after cleaning the holes and therefore I can't discount the metal in the agraffe as being the cause, as Jim C. suggested it might be. JIm Bryant (FL) aka Squeaky
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