Australian sold Yamaha

[Tony Caught]

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Hi Jim,

Of course you are right, there is a vast difference in climatic =
conditions in the various parts of Australia and of course one should =
never shift a piano outside its current living environment but that's =
what people do.

Moisture content of timber (pine) in Alice Springs can be as low as 5%, =
Sydney is about 15% and Darwin (where I live) is either 23% or 14% =
(depending on what time of year. I could go on about this but when some =
one from Sydney rings my and says I am coming to Darwin and I have been =
told that if I take my piano it will wreck it, 'what should I do ?')

My answer is always 'bring your piano, put it in the right place in your =
house, (no draughts, outside walls, rocky floors etc and have a =
Dampp-Chaser de-humidity system fitted upon arrival and the piano will =
be fine.'

So a few do and the rest ignore the advise.  Advise is great when people =
ask for it and use it but otherwise it is all thought of as a sales con =
and ignored.

People can't and won't sell their 80yo piano because their are moving to =
another place and then buy a new piano when they get there. It just =
doesn't happen.

When I say 'let it acclimatize first I mean that leave it for a month, =
look at it, tighten or loosen the action, raise or lower the key =
capstains  etc etc depending on how the piano settles in to its new =
home.  Sure immediately put a Dampp-Chaser system in it immediately, =
every piano should have one be it wet, dry or normal depending on the =
condition, also, where are the people going next ?, how long are they =
going to be there, ? Analyse the situation and then give the right =
advise.

The question was " Has anyone any experience with a Yamaha baby grand =
purchased in Australia, being moved to North America?      I have a =
customer who has recently come
 from Australia, and brought his Yamaha baby grand. I was wondering if =
it is liable to have some of the problems, associated with the used =
imports from Japan."

This was the question I answered.  What I and Yamaha Australia refer to =
as tropicalised pianos are,  waterproof glues used in bridges and other =
wood parts instead of white glue, hammer heads stapled instead of not =
stapled.  Timber also is seasoned to a different degree.  The grey piano =
is often made of cheaper materials. Timbers, glue, felt etc, it may look =
the same but to maintain a set quality many thing are graded then used =
as the manufacturer sees fit.=20
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Sorry for the rave but all I did was answer a question and I guess I =
assumed that John knows the rest of the story because living in Alaska =
he would have had many people move there from other places already,

Regards

Tony Caught ICPTG Australia
caute@optusnet.com.au

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From: <JIMRPT@AOL.COM>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Tuesday, 6 June 2000 2:05
Subject: Re: Re: Australian sold Yamaha


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> In a message dated 6/06/2000 12:09:06 AM, Tony C. wrote:
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> <<"All Yamaha grand's sold in Australia are top of the range, made in =
Japan,
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> tropicalised pianos.  Most likely the same as those made / sold in =
America.">>
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> Tony;
>  I always thought there was a vast difference between say Alice =
Springs and=20
> Sydney? Isn't there?  Or does the four eucalyptus trees in Alice =
Springs make=20
> it a "tropical Paradise"? :-)
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>   Whether a piano was "made" for a certain climate or not  the climate =
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> it lives in for the first years of its service is a determining factor =
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> where these thingees should and should not go as 'used' thingees, and =
If they=20
> go where they shouldn't..... what can be done to prevent problems.
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>  Example: a piano which has spent the first 15 years in Alice Springs =
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> gonna develop some problems when it is shipped to live in Sydney...Or =
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> TO: Anchorage...or Los Angeles TO: Pheonix....... and vise a versa on =
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> those locations.
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>  When a 'used' piano, be it grey market,or S&S, or Baldwin etc..... is =
shipped
>  to a vastly different climate, or life style, then it needs to be =
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> accordingly.  DC systems in those going from dry to wet and
> 'Full' DC systems in those going from wet to dry. (or as I am sure =
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> say 'full' systems in both)
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>  With a little common sense from us tech types that should be no=20
> unsurmountable problems with these "grey market" thingees. Marketing =
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> notwithstanding. :-)
> My view.
> Jim Bryant (FL)
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