Hi Todd, I've got bad enough vision without crossing my eyes, so I don't think I'll be using your new method. Have you tried putting the SAT on its side? Sometimes the mike works better that way, and a clear pattern emerges. Also, don't forget to listen to the note you're trying to tune/measure. All too often all three strings have false beats, very shrill tone due to poor hammer condition, etc. It's no wonder that the machine is confused by what it hears. Now if Al could only program the SAT to fix the false beats, voice the hammers, etc. we could take a nap while we're tuning <grin>! Patrick Draine
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