Brand New topic/Referral Fees

Diane Hofstetter dianepianotuner@hotmail.com
Wed, 07 Feb 2001 21:21:08 -0900


Thoughtful and well written! I think likewise.
Thank you David.
Diane


>From: "David Love" <davidlovepianos@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: pianotech@ptg.org
>To: pianotech@ptg.org
>Subject: Re: Brand New topic/Referral Fees
>Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 05:03:14 -0000
>
>There are several issues here.  First, the agent.  I'd tell him to go tune
>it himself.
>
>Referral fees are a more complicated area.  I commonly offer discounts to
>the trade.  If another technician approaches me to do a job such as an
>action rebuild, or restringing, for a customer of theirs I will extend a
>discount of 10-15% for the work being performed.  Often the other 
>technician
>will still have a hand in the job:  they may deal directly with the
>customer, pick up and deliver the action, do the final fitting or voicing,
>the follow up tunings, etc..  I always approach these type of situations
>with a great deal of respect for their relationship with their customer and
>try to maintain a professional distance so that their relationship is not
>compromised.  Such a situation benefits both parties, I get more work, the
>other technician gets a discount to accomodate their time and energy, and
>the customer does not pay more than they would have had they come to me
>directly (assuming a basic parity in prices).  I do think it is important
>that the customer does not pay a higher price because the job is being
>subcontracted, otherwise the original technician may be put in a 
>potentially
>compromising position.  The other technicians I work with trust that I 
>won't
>try and "steal" their customers and are more inclined to subcontract me for
>work that they either can't handle or don't have time for.
>
>As far as straight referrals go, i.e. somebody calls me and I can't handle
>the job for some reason, geographical, time, etc., and I refer them to
>another technician, I don't ask for and don't expect a fee.  I have 
>referred
>calls I have gotten on many occasions to other techs for various reasons,
>never once have I asked for a fee.  I refer them to techs whose work and
>professional ethics I trust and I figure what goes around comes around.  I
>have benefitted many times from these types of referrals and others have
>benefitted from mine.  I consider it part of a level of professional
>courtesy that it behooves us all to extend and maintain.
>
>David Love
>
>
>>From: Wimblees@AOL.COM
>>Reply-To: pianotech@ptg.org
>>To: pianotech@ptg.org
>>Subject: Re: Referral Fees
>>Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 22:05:00 EST
>>
>>In a message dated 2/7/01 6:06:47 PM Central Standard Time,
>>mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com writes:
>>
>>
>> > I would think a referral fee would entice those non-shop oriented techs
>>into
>> > pursuing these types of arrangements. Does anyone have any experience
>>with
>> > this type of thing. I just did a bridge repair for another tech and 
>>gave
>>him
>> > 10% of the job fee. Any thoughts?
>> >
>> > Terry Farrell
>> >
>>
>>This is kind of interesting. We are willing to give another tech 10% of 
>>our
>>bill for referring a customer to us, but we find giving 20% to an agent 
>>for
>>referring work to us appalling. Now I would agree that 20% is high. But in
>>either case, I would think both of these are considered "kick backs."
>>
>>If you do work for other techs, charge what you normally would. It is up 
>>to
>>the other tech to charge the customer. If the other tech wants to charge
>>the
>>same as I am charging, that is his/her problem. If he/she wants to charge
>>the
>>customer more, that is his/her prerogative. If an another tech refers a
>>customer to me, I don't feel obligated to give a "commission." Why should
>>I?
>>I do rebuilding work, the other tech doesn't. If the other tech wants to
>>make
>>more money, let him/her learn rebuilding.
>>
>>Willem
>>
>>
>
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