Pitch Raises ... Multiple Passes?

[Joe And Penny Goss]

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Kevin,
I do the bass first also but find that using the 25% raises the pitch =
way too far, often 10 to 15 cents above where I want it to be when =
finished.
The verituner has a program of 10% for the bass that gets the bass right =
on the money give or take a cent. But the reason that I do not use the =
verituner on raises of over is the view of the targets is not as easy =
for me to work with not the program.
For me just setting the SAT is easier with fooling the program to give =
me the over pull that I want and then letting the little green lights do =
the job. Yes I said green <G>
Joe Goss
imatunr@srvinet.com
www.mothergoosetools.com
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  From: Kevin E. Ramsey=20
  To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
  Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 9:30 PM
  Subject: Re: Pitch Raises ... Multiple Passes?


  Joe, glad it works for you, however, I find that the bass requires a =
twenty percent over-pull. Perhaps our methods differ; during a pitch =
raise, I tune the single bass strings and one string of each bi-chord =
first, then I pull out the strip and tune unisons by ear.  I'm also =
tuning the bass first, ala Sanderson. When I do a pitch raise, I do it =
with a SAT (Gets you real close, real fast), so I do the bass first. I =
can understand the 10% overpull thing only if I've already brought the =
rest of the piano up first.=20
      Please clarify.
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    From: Joe And Penny Goss=20
    To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
    Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 7:46 PM
    Subject: Re: Pitch Raises ... Multiple Passes?


    Kevin,
    If the bass is about 30 cents flat I want to raise the note about =
three cents sharp ( about 10% ) of pitch. So with a SATlll that raises =
the pitch 25%  that would result in too much over pull for me so I will =
set the over pull for 12 cents and roll the program into the machine.
    I take only one measurement at A2 to arrive at my over pull. Works =
very well for me.
    I use the 25% in the tenor and about C4 the 30% to the top then =
retune.
    On pianos 25% or less flat or sharp I use the Verituner 100 and its =
10% bass, 30% tenor,
    and 36% treble and retune.
    Joe Goss
    imatunr@srvinet.com
    www.mothergoosetools.com
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      From: Kevin E. Ramsey=20
      To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
      Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 7:40 PM
      Subject: Re: Pitch Raises ... Multiple Passes?


      >
      >     All wound strings: 1/5 (Example: You test 10 notes, or so, =
and find
      them
      > about 30 cents flat. You would set your ETD to +6 cents sharp =
and tune
      those
      > strings to that setting.)


          Here's another little brain saver:  What if you're pitch =
raising a piano and want to do a 20% overpull in the bass, and it's, =
say, 28 cent's flat. (let's see, one fifth of twenty eight would be =
......... ah........ ah........) =20

          Take 28, and double it for 56. Move the decimal point over to =
the left one place.=20

           5.6 is 1/20th of 28.=20

          At least, that's how I do it.=20

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