Wim/Pitch raise experiment

[Greg Newell]

Dave,
    Never! I don't work for free!!! Whenever I do a pitch raise I have
always gone over the options that the customer has and possible
ramifications. It always their decision how to proceed and their
consequenses should something go wrong.
If they choose to tune it low I tune it low. I'm never too happy about it
but it is their money after all.

Greg

"David M. Porritt" wrote:

> Greg:
>
> What do you do if the customer (you do warn them ahead of time what
> _could_ happen, don't you) won't assume that risk?  Do you raise the
> pitch and if a string breaks, replace it free?
>
> dave
>
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> On 1/9/02 at 5:29 PM Greg Newell wrote:
>
> >Dave, Wim and list,
> >    You may wish to start lubricating the strings with Protek CPL
> before
> >tuning these old beasts. I'm with Joe on this one. What good is a
> piano
> >that's perpetually flat in pitch? Isn't ear training just as
> important as
> >finger training? I raise pitch on these old beasties all the time.
> They
> >have all come through just fine without so much as a whimper. I'm
> sure
> >your also aware of how much livelier they sound when up to the pitch
> they
> >were designed for. Never fails to get a "WOW" from the customer.
> >    my two cents.
> >
> >Greg
> >
> >"David M. Porritt" wrote:
> >
> >> Joe:
> >>
> >> What about the customer who doesn't want to take the chance on
> >> breaking strings.  I did a Cable spinet last week that was down,
> >> already had 3 broken strings and the customer (rightfully) didn't
> >> want to spend any more on it than necessary.  Should I tell her to
> >> forget about her recently started piano lessons and trash the
> piano?
> >> Or offer to bring it up, break some strings and fix them at my
> >> expense?
> >>
> >> Some of our dogmatic rules ocaisionally have to get modified out
> in
> >> the "real world".
> >>
> >> dave
> >>
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> >> On 1/9/02 at 11:08 AM Joseph Garrett wrote:
> >>
> >> >Wim,
> >> >You are such a woose! "Why chance it"?!! to get the piano at
> pitch
> >> and have
> >> >the tuning be more effective and relevant to making MUSIC! I
> >> maintain, if
> >> >the piano, (the whole piano), cannot be tuned to standard pitch
> or
> >> it's
> >> >designed pitch, then it needs, either to be repaired or trashed.
> >> It's just
> >> >that simple. Any tuner that, without total knowledge of the
> >> customers
> >> >needs,
> >> >(current and future), tunes a piano a 1/2 tone flat, usually
> because
> >> he
> >> >doesn't want a string to break, is not a good tech IMO. This is
> >> usually
> >> >because that tooner does not carry any string stock, etc. and
> >> besides,
> >> >usually couldn't fix a hang nail w/o drawing major blood.
> >> >Just MHO.
> >> >Joe Garrett, RPT
> >>
> >>
> >> _____________________________
> >> David M. Porritt
> >> dporritt@mail.smu.edu
> >> Meadows School of the Arts
> >> Southern Methodist University
> >> Dallas, TX 75275
> >> _____________________________
> >
> >--
> >Greg Newell
> >mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net
>
> _____________________________
> David M. Porritt
> dporritt@mail.smu.edu
> Meadows School of the Arts
> Southern Methodist University
> Dallas, TX 75275
> _____________________________

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Greg Newell
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