Painted String Rendering

[Farrell]

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OK, fair enough, you may well be right, the strings are pretty rusty.

> I mean to do a couple more strings, leaving the agraffes alone, and a =
couple more agraffes leaving the original strings in place, to try to =
isolate the biggest contributor to the improvement, but haven't gotten =
around to it.

May be a good learning experience, but I think the bottom line is when =
restringing, either recondition (I have and use the reamer from =
Pianotek) or replace the agraffes (I just replace usually) - don't just =
leave them there and slop some gold paint on them (like what I always =
have seen done).
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  From: Mike and Jane Spalding=20
  To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
  Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 7:59 AM
  Subject: Re: Painted String Rendering


  Terry,

  My "learning to tune" piano had / has exactly the same characteristic =
throughout the tenor agraffe section.  No paint, but 75 years of rust, =
and conformation of string and agraffe to each other.  After attending a =
David Betts seminar on agraffes at the Arlington convention, I restrung =
two of the worst notes, following David's procedure for cleaning and =
reaming (tool available at Pianotek) the agraffe.  What a difference!  =
Those 6 strings now render as smoothly as any strings on any piano I =
have run into.  I mean to do a couple more strings, leaving the agraffes =
alone, and a couple more agraffes leaving the original strings in place, =
to try to isolate the biggest contributor to the improvement, but =
haven't gotten around to it.

  Regarding paint, I am doing some action work on a M&H BB for a dealer, =
which he had restrung by someone else.  There is a lot of gold paint on =
the strings, looks like overspray from touching up the plate.  I have =
tuned this piano, and didn't notice any problems with string rendering.  =
Maybe the paint doesn't extend into the agraffe bearing surfaces, but my =
bets are on rust, conformance, and burrs on the agraffe, not paint.

  Good luck selling the restringing job!

  Mike
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Farrell=20
    To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
    Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 6:10 AM
    Subject: Re: Painted String Rendering


    I indicated in my original post that several times this tuning and =
on previous tunings I have applied a liberal dose of Protek to the =
string, the felt, the agraffe - all to no avail (maybe worked a little =
less bad, but a bad problem still existed - I spent 3 hours tuning that =
monster that was only about 4 cents flat - of course that included =
crawling around looking for buzzes, pondering the sticky string thing, =
and afterward listening to this woman rip through a bunch of Rachmananof =
(sp?) (the whole process was not painful - even 60-year-old tubby bass =
strings don't sound all that bad when you hit them just right and in the =
right order - and my upper tenor section seemed to hold it's tune!).
     =20
    Terry Farrell
      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Marcel Carey=20
      To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
      Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 11:03 PM
      Subject: RE: Painted String Rendering


      Terry,

      I remember someone telling this list that the culprit could very =
well be friction between the strings and it's underfelt. I had a =
Heintzman that was excatly like what you described and I cured it with a =
somewhat generous application of protek on the underfelt.

      Try it out and let us know.

      Marcel Carey

      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pianotech@ptg.org [mailto:owner-pianotech@ptg.org]On =
Behalf
      Of Farrell
      Sent: 17 janvier, 2002 17:30
      To: pianotech@ptg.org
      Subject: Painted String Rendering


      I tuned a 1940s Baldwin L today. It has always been a nasty piano =
to tune.

      Sounds like we have a good reason to restring. Yes?

      If the customer can afford it GO FOR IT !

      Terry Farrell






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