etd tunings

[Farrell]

You can't "tune" any piano. You can only get them as close and consistent as you reasonably can. So from that viewpoint, yes indeed, you can tune an Acrosonic - it's just that there is a tad more deviation from perfection involved! I have a lot of respect for the Baldwin Acrosonic - not so much the 1970s version that was the subject of my post, but rather the 1940s and 1950s. These things were little tanks that were very well built and generally sounded way more acceptable (tone-wise) than most any other micro piano.

Besides, I just hit the "on" button on my Verituner and let it do the compromising gymnastics!

Terry Farrell
  
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lee Sankey" <lsankey@cox.net>
To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 2:50 AM
Subject: Re: etd tunings


> You can't tune a Baldwin Acrosonic.
> 
> Lee Sankey
> San Diego
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Farrell" <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com>
> To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:14 PM
> Subject: Re: etd tunings
> 
> 
> > FWIW, I tuned a Baldwin Acrosonic today for a new client. First time I
> have seen the piano. It's one of those 40" or so spinets. She says she knows
> for a fact that it had been at least 12 years since the last tuning -
> because the last time was when she was in CA. Sounded pretty convicing that
> she was sure of the timing. When I talked to her on the phone, I told her
> that she could expect to also pay for a pitch raise.
> >
> > Darned if that thing wasn't just about right on the button on each note.
> 95% of the notes were easily within 2 cents of target (Verituner). There
> were only a half-dozen or so that were perhaps 4 cents off. Only the bottom
> octave was a bit flat - up to 10 or 15 cents.
> >
> > Amazing.
> >
> > Terry Farrell
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Leslie W Bartlett" <lesbart1@juno.com>
> > To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 8:32 AM
> > Subject: Re: etd tunings
> >
> >
> > > > I'm curious how the discussion led up to your friends "boast".  Were
> > > > the two of you, perhaps, comparing the pitch raise accuracy of his
> > > > RCT and your TuneLab?  I've pitch raised with both, and find that
> > > > RCT gets me closer, more often.  In other words, after a single pass
> > > > 100 cent pitch raise with RCT, I have less to do on the next pass
> > > > than with TuneLab.  Your thoughts?
> > > >
> > >
> > > The family is one whose standards in all things musical is incredibly
> > > high, and the dad/technician is one whose technical skills I envy.  Yet,
> > > all I've heard bantered about on the list suggests that "things"
> continue
> > > to stretch and shift for "awhile" afterwards, and I can't imagine such a
> > > major change staying solid.  He may be able to do it. His clients are
> > > generally playing the better pianos, as he sends a number of the
> "lesser"
> > > ones to me.  I've not heard one of those major pitch raises which he's
> > > tuned, so can't say anything except his expressed opinion.  I'm one who
> > > questions, not one who thinks he knows..........  though I did have my
> > > first major outdoor tuning venture last weekend for John Tesh. The piano
> > > sat outside in the pavillion for eight hours before the concert, and
> was,
> > > for me, at least, a difficult challenge, an opportunity dropped in my
> > > lap.  I asked him "if" it was acceptable, and he was quite
> > > gracious.............
> > >
> > > As to the TL/Cybertuner thing, the PRO version has a modified way to do
> > > pitch raises, the percent of overpull manually being set in different
> > > sections of the piano. I also "cheat the program" a bit, depending on
> the
> > > distance out of tune, and I seem to have pretty good luck. I'm a
> > > committed TL user, for the same reasons I'm a committed Guild person.
> > > Both have given me what I know. Both have been effective in raising my
> > > hopes and my standards.  Neither forces me into "politics".  TL leaves
> > > enough stuff for the tuner to mess with that it's still "his" tuning, in
> > > the end. Since the tuner, not the program, is either given credit or
> > > criticism for the final result-  I like what TL offers. I've never used
> > > Cybertuner, and only used an SAT a couple times, but I like TL with its
> > > graph plus moving blocks.
> > > les
> > >
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