John Hartman wrote: >I have ways to estimate the MOI of the wip >and the hammer/shank as well but first I >wanted to se if anyone else had ideas on >how to do this. For hammer & shank I have estimated as follows: I think Stanwood gives 1.8g as typical SW of shank. So for purposes of estimating MOI you can use 2 x 1.8 as the total mass of the shank. This helps to correct for the fact that the shank is fatter near the center pin, but most of the MOI is at the skinny end. So 3.6g for mass. Length is the length from center pin to end of shank, not to center of hammer molding. Then you can use m*L^2/3 for moment of inertia (stick rotating around one end). For hammer, use SW-1.8 grams for mass and for radius measure from center pin to center of molding 1/2" above shank. Treat as point mass for estimating. Add shank and hammer MOIs to get total. Wippen is harder. Fortunately due to modest mass and small motion it is less significant in the end so errors are not as important. I have used m*L^2/3 for wippen (same as formula for stick rotating around endpoint), taking the total mass as m and distance from center pin to jack center as L. Crude, but puts you in the ballpark. Your revised key estimate looks good. Certainly the key inertia is no smaller than that. I made an attempt to relate hammer, wippen and key inertia to total reflected inertia here: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/2003-August/140901.html -Mark
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