Practical Approaches was RE: This Needs A Definitive Settlement was RE: 12 cents

[Alan]

I have indeed noted this frustrating phenomenon. 

I'm guessing that if we were real observant we would probably note a
correlation between this and the way the pitch changes while the string
is being tuned, i.e., some correlation with how easily the string moves
and "equalizes" under the hammer.

Actually, the most frustrating times I can remember happened when I made
a pitch DROP. You do the correction from 1-88 then, usually in the tenor
section, you tune a center string--settling string & pin as always--only
to find that it moves sharp, significantly, while you tune an outer
string. 

I've noticed this much more so than movement after a pitch RAISE. Maybe
it's something in my technique but I don't know what it could be. I'll
bet, again, it is related to the ease with which the string renders
under the vee/capo bar, through the bridge, etc.  

Alan R. Barnard
Salem, MO

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From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On
Behalf Of Ron Nossaman
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 6:29 PM
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Subject: Re: Practical Approaches was RE: This Needs A Definitive
Settlement was RE: 12 cents


>Point: I think the above spiel covers me if the tuning DOES go a little
>south after a big pitch change.

Me too. That's pretty much my approach.


>BUT one other thing: I put a lot of energy into each string when I
>perform a pc--POUND, POUND, POUND. I want those strings to move under
MY
>control, not while Ms. Pianowner is rapping out really raucous
>Rachmaninoff rhapsodies.


Likewise, but(t)...
Have you ever had the first string you tuned drop suddenly as you were 
tuning the second or third to it, even after pounding the first string
into 
what should have been adequate submission? Where did the pitch drop come

from? There are only three remotely rational possibilities I can think
of. 
One is from the back scale, which I consider most likely in spite of the

pounding. Second is from the coil, which, interestingly enough, will
often 
entertain you with a dramatic pitch drop if you tap on it a bit, but 
normally won't if you don't. Third is a highly localized structural
failure 
affecting only one string.

I'll take door number one, please.

Ron N

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