This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Sorry it's been silent. I have a life. I mentioned that we should get back to pianos, but as nobody wants to (they must want more OT posts to complain about), I'll oblige. Since people seem too lazy to go and look for the information themselves, here's a bit of it found at: http://www.lehigh.edu/~ejg1/ed/strad1.html "Vespucci's own "prurient gaze" (Mason 171) provided a basis for the imperial/sexual politics of Stradanus's America. His letters from the New World highlighted the "inordinate" lust of Native women who used the bites of poisonous animals to thicken their "husbands' members" and were "very desirous to copulate with us Christians," as well as the treachery of cannibal women <http://www.lehigh.edu/~ejg1/ed/vespuccan.html> who clubbed and roasted a sailor "before our eyes" (Vespucci 49, 64, 88)." There is clearly more here than mention of nekkidness. And plenty of more references if you're so inclined. Of course, as I wasn't there when Vespucci wrote these alleged letters, I can't validate their authenticity. I merely wanted to see if what Gordon said had any clout, and it seems it does. I really see no need to research the matter any more, as I don't particularly care. I live in the US, and am plenty aware of the cannibal women that threaten us all. :-) I think it's interesting that in people's haste to start a fight, they forgot to look for the facts they're so quick to accuse poor Gordon of not having. Yes Yes. Gordon has had some doozies in his days, but unfortunately guys, this isn't one of them. Now I might contest that this was the reason for his name being given to the country, or some of the other finer details in the original post. I might also argue if he were to say that because of this naked behavior, wild dogs were eating babies amidst a hurricane. But the point that everyone seems to be contesting; whether or not Vespucci talked about sex (why are we so concerned about this again?) seems to be mostly true. Again, sorry for the silence Kevin, but I had a few things to do today. Hope this helps Jonathan Finger RPT -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Kevin E. Ramsey Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 7:32 PM To: Pianotech Subject: Re: Americus Vespucci [OT] [Amerigo} Funny how silent it suddenly is, isn't it, Keith? Kevin ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith McGavern <mailto:kam544@gbronline.com> To: Pianotech <mailto:pianotech@ptg.org> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 7:03 PM Subject: RE: Americus Vespucci [OT] [Amerigo} >... I did a little research of my own, and >found that "Mr. Stetler" isn't far off. >Jonathan Finger RPT Come on Jonathan, back up that *little research* of yours and provide an actual documented reference that supports the degree of exaggeration that Mr. Stetler has taken into the realm of 'prurient' matters, especially since you claim it exists. I'm not interested in the details, I'm interested in the documented proof of such matters being written of being sexual overtures. Writing of birthing babies or being naked in one's given natural environment is not sexual. It was just an observation written by an explorer. Keith McGavern Registered Piano Technician Oklahoma Chapter 731 Piano Technicians Guild USA _______________________________________________ pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/6f/2c/1e/20/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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