Americus Vespucci [OT] [Amerigo}

[Isaac OLEG]

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Well, as said one of our great philosophs, "not because one have nothing to
say that one may shut his mouth".

And so on ....

Taking act.
Isaac OLEG

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  De : pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]De la
part de Jonathan Finger
  Envoye : dimanche 16 mars 2003 11:30
  A : 'Kevin E. Ramsey'; 'Pianotech'
  Objet : RE: Americus Vespucci [OT] [Amerigo}


  Sorry it's been silent. I have a life.



  I mentioned that we should get back to pianos, but as nobody wants to
(they must want more OT posts to complain about), I'll oblige.





  Since people seem too lazy to go and look for the information themselves,
here's a bit of it found at: http://www.lehigh.edu/~ejg1/ed/strad1.html



              "Vespucci's own "prurient gaze" (Mason 171) provided a basis
for the imperial/sexual politics of Stradanus's America. His letters from
the New World highlighted the "inordinate" lust of Native women who used the
bites of poisonous animals to thicken their "husbands' members" and were
"very desirous to copulate with us Christians," as well as the treachery of
cannibal women who clubbed and roasted a sailor "before our eyes" (Vespucci
49, 64, 88)."





  There is clearly more here than mention of nekkidness.  And plenty of more
references if you're so inclined.  Of course, as I wasn't there when
Vespucci wrote these alleged letters, I can't validate their authenticity.
I merely wanted to see if what Gordon said had any clout, and it seems it
does.  I really see no need to research the matter any more, as I don't
particularly care.  I live in the US, and am plenty aware of the cannibal
women that threaten us all.  J





  I think it's interesting that in people's haste to start a fight, they
forgot to look for the facts they're so quick to accuse poor Gordon of not
having.



  Yes Yes. Gordon has had some doozies in his days, but unfortunately guys,
this isn't one of them.  Now I might contest that this was the reason for
his name being given to the country, or some of the other finer details in
the original post.  I might also argue if he were to say that because of
this naked behavior, wild dogs were eating babies amidst a hurricane.  But
the point that everyone seems to be contesting; whether or not Vespucci
talked about sex (why are we so concerned about this again?) seems to be
mostly true.



  Again, sorry for the silence Kevin, but I had a few things to do today.



  Hope this helps



  Jonathan Finger RPT





  -----Original Message-----
  From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On
Behalf Of Kevin E. Ramsey
  Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 7:32 PM
  To: Pianotech
  Subject: Re: Americus Vespucci [OT] [Amerigo}



  Funny how silent it suddenly is, isn't it, Keith?

  Kevin

    ----- Original Message -----

    From: Keith McGavern

    To: Pianotech

    Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2003 7:03 PM

    Subject: RE: Americus Vespucci [OT] [Amerigo}



    >... I did a little research of my own, and
    >found that "Mr. Stetler" isn't far off.
    >Jonathan Finger RPT

    Come on Jonathan, back up that *little research* of yours and provide
    an actual documented reference that supports the degree of
    exaggeration that Mr. Stetler has taken into the realm of 'prurient'
    matters, especially since you claim it exists.

    I'm not interested in the details, I'm interested in the documented
    proof of such matters being written of being sexual overtures.
    Writing of birthing babies or being naked in one's given natural
    environment is not sexual. It was just an observation written by an
    explorer.

    Keith McGavern
    Registered Piano Technician
    Oklahoma Chapter 731
    Piano Technicians Guild
    USA
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