Hi Dave, Unisons included in your first pass. Some people favor different tests--we literally all *here* differently so that's not surprising. Find the two tests that work best for you. Use one to help *set* your octaves and the other to *test* the result. Kind of a *two gun* approach. My personal choice for temperament would be the Baldasin/Sandeson one. At 04:39 PM 3/16/2003 -0800, you wrote: >Hi Gang, > >#1. In making "2 passes" to tune the piano, do most >people include tuning the unisons in each pass, or >just the temperament and octaves, then the unisons in >the second pass? (pretending the piano is within 4 >cents of A-440) > >#2. I'm overwhelmed with all the different tests >involved in checking the treble and bass. What are >the most effective tests used by the masses in every >day tuning? > >I'm planning to take the RPT Tuning Exam later this >year and am practicing up a storm to get it down >right. According to the RCT, I'm catching on pretty >well. > >If this goes well and doesn't raise political or moral >posts, I'll have more questions in a few days. > >Thanks, > >Dave Davis >Renton, WA >Puget Sound Chapter > > >--- Avery Todd <avery@ev1.net> wrote: >> Charles, >> >> Even though I agree with what you said, it shouldn't >> be necessary to do that >> just to stay on the list and not be inundated with >> "stuff"! Maybe I'm just >> "living in the past", so to speak, but I don't >> remember us ever having all >> this many problems in the early years of the list. >> Why are we now? Why >> are there so many people on the list posting stuff >> that offends and alienates >> so many people? >> >> I have a very high tolerance for this kind of >> off-topic stuff because I know >> how to use the delete button but why should it be >> necessary?????? And >> even I'm getting tired of it! I like to "attempt" a >> little one-liner type >> of joke >> every now and then but I've never posted the kind of >> things that have been >> on the list in the last year or so! Why are we >> having it now? I wish I knew >> the answer! >> >> Avery >> >> At 06:48 PM 03/16/03 -0500, you wrote: >> >Some suggestions for handling pianotech: >> > >> >1) You can view the archives and read only the >> posts you want to, and post >> >when you want to. You don't need to be subscribed. >> > >> >2) You can post a question and view only responses >> to that question via >> >the archives. >> > >> >3) You can get the digest version. If you scroll >> through it quickly you >> >can pick out the good stuff. >> > >> >Charles Neuman >> >PTG Assoc, Long Island >> > >> > >> >On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, James Ellis wrote: >> > > A week or so ago, I sent a memo to the PTG-L >> list regarding a technical >> > > problem. I was informed by one individual that >> I was out of order, and >> > > that it should have been sent to the Pianotech >> list. I agreed, and signed >> > > up for Pianotech, and for CAUT as well. >> > > >> > > Since that time, I have kept a log of the number >> of messages that have come >> > > through. During the past 48 hours, I have >> received 18 from CAUT, and 160 >> > > from Pianotech. A little bit of really good >> stuff has come through on both >> > > lists, but a lot of other material, especially >> on Pianotech, had nothing to >> > > do with technical piano matters at all. One >> item was a group of JPEG >> > > images that my computer could not read, that >> jammed it with at least 100 >> > > pages of pure jibberish that took forever to >> download, and that caused the >> > > computer to jam when I went to shut down my >> E-mail. I ended up having to >> > > pull the plug to un-jamm it. I do have JPEG on >> the computer, but perhaps >> > > it's an older version that would not read what >> was coming through. >> > > >> > > Anyway, I can't put up with this, so I am >> un-subscribing from Pianotech as >> > > soon as I send this message. I'll stay with >> CAUT for a while longer, and >> > > definitely with PTG-L. >> > > >> > > Sincerely, Jim Ellis, RPT >> > > >> > >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >pianotech list info: >> https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pianotech list info: >https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > >__________________________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online >http://webhosting.yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > Regards, Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.M.T., R.P.T. mailto:pianotuna@accesscomm.ca http://us.geocities.com/drpt1948/ 3004 Grant Rd. REGINA, SK S4S 5G7 306-352-3620 or 1-888-29t-uner
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