Pitch Raise, was: Standard Pitch

[cswearingen@daigger.com]

Phil,

Yes, I agree.

Yeah, I can tune a piano in less than an hour but it ain't going to sound
too good a week later.  Considering I probably hit a note 6-7 times while
tuning/setting a pin (including a listening blow), a can't even fathom how
it is possible to do a fine tuning in under an hour.

Let's forget about pitch raising for a bit.  I'd like to hear from tuners
who claim they can fine tune a piano is less than an hour.  What exactly
are you doing to shave off the time (assuming quality work is being done)?
Are you using some sort of efficient muting pattern?  I admit I probably
spend too much time moving mutes around.

Corte Swearingen
Chicago


                                                                                                         
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We all hear about the 15 minute pitch raise (even 10 min) , but in my 30
yrs plus tuning, I've never known anyone who could or would want(because of
physical ramifications) to work this fast. On average I take 30 mins for a
30cent raise and another hour to fine tune. And that's if the piano is in
good shape and the pins aren't too damn tight. My point is that these short
tuning times are the exceptional and not the norm. So if you think you're
slow, don't worry about it. If you can raise pitch and tune in 2 -2 1/2 hrs
you're doing fine.

My 15 cents

Phil Frankenberg
Chico Ca.
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Farrell
 To: Pianotech
 Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 7:53 AM
 Subject: Pitch Raise, was: Standard Pitch

 To the 15 minute pitch raisers out there:

 Would this apply to a piano that was, for example, 30 cents flat? Do you
 then, after the one pass pitch raise is complete, tune the piano in one
 tuning pass? If so, can I assume the quick pitch raise got all strings to
 within two or so cents of their target? And after all is said and done,
 does this one pass pitch raise, followed by a one pass tuning bring all
 strings/notes to within one or two cents of target?

 I'm not saying any of this is not possible. I can't do it in the times
 reported on this list. I have a hard time imagining someone doing it. I
 hope to have the opportunity at a convention sometime to witness a speed
 demonstration.

 Terry Farrell

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Brian Lawson" <lawsonic@bdmail.co.za>
 To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
 Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 10:35 AM
 Subject: Re: Standard Pitch

 > Hi,
 >
 > If you are taking 2 hours for a pitch raise then you are trying for
 something
 > else.
 > i.e. you should not be trying to set pins and get perfect unisons
 >
 > You come to a flat piano - A pitch raise is a sharp, out of tune piano -
 that
 > takes 15 - 20 mins
 >
 >
 > Brian
 >
 >
 >
 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: "Joey Recker" <joey@onkeypianotuning.com>
 > To: "'Pianotech'" <pianotech@ptg.org>
 > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 3:54 PM
 > Subject: RE: Standard Pitch
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > > Any other slow tuners out there??
 > >
 >
 > I'm with you brother!  After reading this list for a while I'm glad to
 > hear someone else is as slow as me!  I figure I'm doing something wrong.
 >
 >
 > Standard "fine tuning".  I plan for an hour (although I have completed
 > in 45 minutes).
 > Pitch Raise.  2 hours.
 >
 >
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