Pulling Plates

[Joe And Penny Goss]

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Hi Terry,
Please send me a private post so I can send you a message. Tried to use =
your address in the journal.
Joe Goss RPT
Mother Goose Tools
imatunr@srvinet.com
www.mothergoosetools.com
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  From: Terry=20
  To: Pianotech=20
  Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 3:05 PM
  Subject: Re: Pulling Plates


  I've been wrapping a thick, soft, nylon strap around struts, capo, =
etc. for lifting. Haven't had it disturb new paint (knock on maple rim).

  Terry Farrell
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    From: Greg Newell=20
    To: Pianotech=20
    Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 4:55 PM
    Subject: Re: Pulling Plates



    List,
            Yesterday I encountered a 1960's or so Baldwin "D" which had =
one of it's plate struts looking rather thin. It seemed to me to be a =
potential weak spot. I haven't had the opportunity yet to pull a plate =
from an instrument that large but this particular one just might =
experience my ministrations sometime in the future. Are there any =
special things to consider when pulling plates this large? So far a =
"cherry picker" has worked just fine on pianos under 6'. As the pianos =
go larger the plate gets a bit harder to balance and support properly. I =
have an air hoist motor that needs rebuilding and some box steel that I =
could use to make a frame for it. That should cover the lifting part of =
the job but what about the support? Do you simply double up on the =
straps or other support means?
            BTW, some time ago I promised a report on my experience with =
the Buldoc grand plate puller. Since my shop isn't all that busy (too =
many tunings) I waited until I had the chance to use it a few times. My =
advice is don't waste your money. The top bar is weak and bends rather =
easily which could allow the plate to slide if it became unbalanced. =
That could be disastrous. While I've only pulled a few plates to date I =
found that it was difficult to find the proper location of the plate to =
attach it to. I could get close and then the directions are to tap it =
around to get to the balance point but it always seems to have been too =
close to the bolts on either end. Tapping it, in one case, left some =
marks on the freshly painted plate which did not make my day either. I =
believe that I will continue to use it until something about it just =
irritates me beyond reason but I wish it worked better than it does.=20
            Has anyone ever tried putting some kind of bar stock through =
the plate holes and then attaching a strap to that? When using the =
straps I don't really like the fact that the strap hook comes in contact =
with the painted surface. Actually I'd rather that the strap material =
didn't either. Sure would love to see some pics on how others do this. =
Each one I pull leaves me scratching my head trying to noodle out a =
better way. Help me out folks my hairs getting thin enough as it is!!
    =20
    Best,
    Greg Newell
    =20


    At 02:24 AM 12/8/2004, you wrote:

      R.Cromwell said: "While I am familiar with using a hoist attached =
to steel rafters as one
      method of removing a plate from a grand piano, has anyone tried =
using an
      engine crane to achieve the same goal?  Is it feasible or am I =
crazy - or
      both?

      =20

      Gazing doubtfully at a poorly supported ancient wooden rafter,"

      R.C.,
      I've used a "cherry picker", (the collapsible type), a couple of =
times, when doing work in another techs shop that didn't have a winch, =
etc. Worked just fine. They can be rented and are not that difficult to =
use/set up.
      Best Regards,
      Joe Garrett, R.P.T.
      Captain, Tool Police
      Squares R I
    Greg Newell
    Greg's piano Fort=E9
    mailto:gnewell@ameritech.net=20

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