digital?

pianolover 88 pianolover88@hotmail.com
Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:36:15 -0800


<<Consider that before digital the cry was between tracker touch and 
tubular-pneumatic or electro -pneumatic.   Further steps from the finders to 
actually doing something physical to the sound  source.>>

The whole point for organ was to "improve" on its design; It's really not a 
good comparison because the organ has no strings, or hammers.  The digital 
"piano" is certainly no improvement on the acoustic piano! Of course, 
improvements HAVE been made since Cristofori's model, but it is still 
strings, soundboard, bridges, action, etc. Digital is simply modern 
technology trying (in vain) to make a better "mousetrap".

Terry Peterson



----Original Message Follows----
From: &quot;James Grebe&quot; &lt;pianoman@accessus.net&gt;
Reply-To: Pianotech &lt;pianotech@ptg.org&gt;
To: &quot;Pianotech&quot; &lt;pianotech@ptg.org&gt;
Subject: Re: digital?
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 17:14:38 -0600

Consider that before digital the cry was between tracker touch and 
tubular-pneumatic or electro -pneumatic.   Further steps from the finders to 
actually doing something physical to the sound  source.
Jim
James Grebe
Piano-Forte Tuning &amp; Repair
Creator of Handsome Hardwood Caster Cups
(314) 608-4137
WWW.JamesGrebe.com
1526 Raspberry Lane
Arnold, MO 63010
BECOME WHAT YOU BELIEVE!
pianoman@accessus.net
----- Original Message ----- From: &quot;pianolover 88&quot; 
&lt;pianolover88@hotmail.com&gt;
To: &lt;pianotech@ptg.org&gt;
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: digital?


&gt;&lt;&lt;That is the same description organ buff decry the digital organs
&gt;with and yet the digital organs continue in increasing sales because
&gt;of physical size, cost, and available features.  We better get used
&gt;to it.
&gt;James Grebe&gt;&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&quot;Get used to&quot; what? Organs AIN'T Pianos. They have white and 
black
&gt;keys, but that's where the similarity ends.
&gt;Terry Peterson
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;----Original Message Follows----
&gt;From: &amp;quot;James Grebe&amp;quot; 
&amp;lt;pianoman@accessus.net&amp;gt;
&gt;Reply-To: Pianotech &amp;lt;pianotech@ptg.org&amp;gt;
&gt;To: &amp;quot;Pianotech&amp;quot; &amp;lt;pianotech@ptg.org&amp;gt;
&gt;Subject: Re: digital?
&gt;Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 06:02:18 -0600
&gt;
&gt;Hi Terry,
&gt;That is the same description organ buff decry the digital organs
&gt;with and yet the digital organs continue in increasing sales because
&gt;of physical size, cost, and available features.  We better get used
&gt;to it.
&gt;Jim
&gt;James Grebe
&gt;Piano-Forte Tuning &amp;amp; Repair
&gt;Creator of Handsome Hardwood Caster Cups
&gt;(314) 608-4137
&gt;WWW.JamesGrebe.com
&gt;1526 Raspberry Lane
&gt;Arnold, MO 63010
&gt;BECOME WHAT YOU BELIEVE!
&gt;pianoman@accessus.net
&gt;----- Original Message ----- From: &amp;quot;pianolover 88&amp;quot;
&gt;&amp;lt;pianolover88@hotmail.com&amp;gt;
&gt;To: &amp;lt;pianotech@ptg.org&amp;gt;
&gt;Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 6:30 PM
&gt;Subject: Re: digital?
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;&amp;gt;Pianos are almost like organic &amp;quot;living&amp;quot; things 
with a
&gt;soul!
&gt;&amp;gt;replacing the acoustic piano with something digital  would be
&gt;like
&gt;&amp;gt;replacing a human with a robot. In some ways it might be more
&gt;&amp;gt;efficient at certain tasks, would not require food, sleep or
&gt;coffee
&gt;&amp;gt;breaks, but without a soul and and personality and all the human
&gt;&amp;gt;characteristics, good and bad....what a boring, anesceptic thing
&gt;it
&gt;&amp;gt;would be! Howabout a fake lawn, because it lasts longer, doesn't
&gt;&amp;gt;require mowing or water, or all plastic plants in your house and
&gt;&amp;gt;yard? The simple fact is that digital keyboards are ok for
&gt;certain
&gt;&amp;gt;applications, but are in no way an improvement or even an
&gt;equivelent
&gt;&amp;gt;to the acoustic piano.
&gt;&amp;gt;Terry Peterson
&gt;&amp;gt;
&gt;&amp;gt;
&gt;&amp;gt;
&gt;&amp;gt;----Original Message Follows----
&gt;&amp;gt;From: &amp;amp;quot;Barbara Richmond&amp;amp;quot;
&gt;&amp;amp;lt;piano57@flash.net&amp;amp;gt;
&gt;&amp;gt;Reply-To: Pianotech &amp;amp;lt;pianotech@ptg.org&amp;amp;gt;
&gt;&amp;gt;To: &amp;amp;quot;Pianotech&amp;amp;quot;
&gt;&amp;amp;lt;pianotech@ptg.org&amp;amp;gt;
&gt;&amp;gt;Subject: Re: digital?
&gt;&amp;gt;Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 16:59:02 -0600
&gt;&amp;gt;
&gt;&amp;gt;Guy,
&gt;&amp;gt;
&gt;&amp;gt;Not only can one &amp;amp;quot;tucker&amp;amp;quot; out, 
tendonitis can
&gt;occur! Even
&gt;&amp;gt;though I would tell myself I was only playing a keyboard, the
&gt;&amp;gt;musician in me would automatically try to get that keyboard to
&gt;react
&gt;&amp;gt;like a piano.  I remember playing for an event and thinking,
&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;amp;quot;Well, at least in this section I can settle for
&gt;playing
&gt;&amp;gt;softly,&amp;amp;quot;  and then the sound man took over and 
bumped
&gt;up my
&gt;&amp;gt;volume.  So much for expression!    :-)
&gt;&amp;gt;
&gt;&amp;gt;Barbara Richmond
&gt;&amp;gt;   ----- Original Message -----
&gt;&amp;gt;   From: Nichols
&gt;&amp;gt;   To: Pianotech
&gt;&amp;gt;   Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 4:36 PM
&gt;&amp;gt;   Subject: Re: digital?
&gt;&amp;gt;
&gt;&amp;gt;
&gt;&amp;gt;   At 09:19 PM 12/25/2004 -0800, you wrote:
&gt;&amp;gt;
&gt;&amp;gt;
&gt;&amp;gt;     As a pianist, though, there is never any doubt about
&gt;whether
&gt;&amp;gt;they are as satisfying to play as a real piano.  There still is
&gt;no
&gt;&amp;gt;comparison.
&gt;&amp;gt;
&gt;&amp;gt;     Don Mannino RPT
&gt;&amp;gt;
&gt;&amp;gt;
&gt;&amp;gt;   . But every one of those excellent players would tucker out
&gt;after
&gt;&amp;gt;no more than half an hour. Even when there was a
&gt;&amp;amp;quot;zero&amp;amp;quot;
&gt;&amp;gt;volume, like unspoken escapement, and good damper physical
&gt;modeling
&gt;&amp;gt;(multi-step, etc.), the control just wasn't there without
&gt;Herculean
&gt;&amp;gt;effort.
&gt;&amp;gt;
&gt;&amp;gt;
&gt;&amp;gt;   Just my 2 ¢,
&gt;&amp;gt;   Later,
&gt;&amp;gt;   Guy Nichols, RPT
&gt;&amp;gt;
&gt;&amp;gt;
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