for your (radical turn)

[Andrew & Rebeca Anderson]

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Cy,
I used to think that about WTs (well temperaments, what is HT?) but my 
experience has changed the perception.  Originally, I tuned my wife's baby 
to Valloti-Young and it was OK, less bland than ET but nothing particularly 
interesting.  We tried a WT suggested by Paul Bailey and then compared it 
to others on paper and went for Barne's Bach WT.  We like it.  The 
Wurlizter baby sings.  She plays everything from pre-Bach to 
Katchaturian.  ( I think the Katchaturian Toccata would be really powerful 
in modified Meantone.)  I'm expecting to tune a square grand that hasn't 
been tuned since it was re-strung (Brown & Allen, ten years ago) in 
modified meantone.
The more remote keys aren't merely dissonant in WTs, they have vocal 
qualities.  When Beethoven shifts gears in a piece you can hear the vibrato 
come out.  The drive to 'perfect' tuning to the modern ET was more industry 
driven than artist driven from what I read.

Check them out, you'll like them,
Andrew
Las Cruces, NM

At 12:24 PM 3/13/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>Do you always tune "Representative Victorian", or do you pick a different 
>HT based on the piano and its players?  I've heard HTs can make spinets, 
>in particular, sound better.
>
>I've always thought an HT would be great for beginners, who aren't going 
>to get into more than two sharps or flats for a couple of years.  May as 
>well let 'em enjoy those thirds!
>
>--Cy--
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com>Farrell
>To: <mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>Pianotech
>Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 11:58 AM
>Subject: Re: for your (radical turn)
>
>Last week I tuned a 1980s S&S M for a new client. He just moved down here 
>from Manhattan. He has always had "Steinway" technicians service his 
>piano. He "warned" me that he has had arguments about whether some notes 
>were "in tune" with technicians in the past.
>
>I raised the pitch 25 cents to A440 and tuned it to the "Representative 
>Victorian" temperament on my Verituner. He sat down and banged out a 
>movement from the Appassionata while I packed up my tools (and watched in 
>amazement and awe). After he was done, he said "piano is perfect - never 
>sounded so good". I'm not really sure if my tuning was that good (the 
>piano did tune up well - I was unusually happy with it), if he just liked 
>the temperament, or if his past service personnel were sub-par.
>
>FWIW, I pretty much only tune in ET on request - and that is only a very 
>few pianos.
>
>Terry Farrell
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Richard Brekne" 
><<mailto:Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no>Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no>
>To: "Pianotech" <<mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>pianotech@ptg.org>
>Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004 12:18 PM
>Subject: Re: for your (radical turn)
>
> > I can echo Ed here...      yet I still struggle with an unbeleivalbe
> > apathy I find amoung so many of the pianists around here. Their
> > reactions to HT's,  when they react at all... are always as Ed describes
> > below.... but getting them to actually DO something with this new
> > <<toy>> is another matter.
> >
> > I have one Professor who insists on having his Young Chang piano tuned
> > to a milde well... but only because its never sounded good in ET... but
> > this same guy doesnt want to work up a program based on HT's... nor
> > spend any time exposing his students to the potential.
> >
> > I just know that sooner or later something will spark and the ball will
> > get rolling... but the basic GAFFER attitude I find amoung young
> > pianists and faculty at the University level sometimes astounds me.
> > They have their ciriculum... and thats what life is about..  .
> >
> > Nice turn tho Ed
> >
> > RicB
> >
> > <mailto:A440A@aol.com>A440A@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > >Bill writes:
> > ><< Now what was the subject, temperaments? <G> >>
> > >
> > >Humm, now that you mention it....
> > >    I had a new customer call me to tune a Steinway M yesterday.  Said 
> that
> > >he had decided to sell it and wanted it to sound its best.  Told me to do
> > >whatever I thought would make it most attractive. So,  I tuned it in a 
> Broadwood.
> > >He sat down and played it.  His wife (also a musician and songwriter), 
> came
> > >downstairs and stood there.  Hint of rapture in the air...
> > >    After a piece or two, he looked up and said, at the same time his 
> wife
> > >did, "This piano has never sounded this good!" Not sure they want to 
> part with
> > >it, now.
> > >    Last week, a studio owner also had me tune, but asked to return to 
> ET for
> > >an overdub session that was going in E maj.  He told me that since he had
> > >become used to the Coleman 11, the piano just sounds out of tune to 
> him in ET and
> > >wants to return to WT as soon as possible.
> > >   Like I said last century,  this stuff will just not go 
> away!  Politicians
> > >will, but not the WTT's  (well-tempered tuners).
> > >Regards,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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