"should I stay or should I go?"

[baoli liu]

Years back,I had visited a few asian piano
factories,because of the mass production(more than a
hundred pianos every day),a goup of tuners have to
tune pianos side by side with loud nosiy
background.all of the tuners,including some young
tuners tune pianos this way every day.

It is always easy to tune pianos in a nice and quite
place.But being a technician,especially a concert
technician,I think it is a "must" skill/ability to
tune pianos with noisy background.
Baoli Liu


>   You do the best you can in the situation.   I'm in
> total agreement.   Another reason why I love my ETD.
>   I know, if I have to, I can tune every string to
> the ETD and the piano will sound pretty good.
> 
>   David I.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   ----- Original message
> ---------------------------------------->
>   From: antares <antares@euronet.nl>
>   To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
>   Received: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 23:18:19 +0100
>   Subject: Re: "should I stay or should I go?"
> 
> 
>   On the other hand Dave Skolnik,
> 
>   Most of the time we have no choice but to grin and
> ignore.
>   I used to get incredibly furious, swear at people,
> stamp my feet or even walk away from the scene in
> terrible anger.
>   And you know what?
>   The years went by, and I am still tuning in the
> same conditions.
>   And you know what?
>   I don't care anymore.
> 
>   I ignore
>   and 
>   I grin.
> 
>   André Oorebeek
> 
> 
>   On 10-nov-04, at 22:32, David Skolnik wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     Quentin -
> 
>     There is no one answer when you are talking
> about theater, which, for these purposes, includes
> concerts.  Even if you are dealing with a regular
> account, it can take a long time and a lot of work,
> to train the people around you, or the people who
> create the schedule, before the requirements for
> tuning become accepted and anticipated.  And then,
> sometimes, sh_t happens.  A rehearsal goes late,
> last minute stagecraft, etc.  The best approach, I
> think, is to be  bit anal when making the original
> arrangements.  Ask the scheduler if there is
> anything, as in  ANYTHING, else going on during the
> tuning time.  Sometimes the scheduler and
> maintenance, or stage crew, don't communicate so
> well.  It's worth double checking.  
> 
>     It is true how amazing it is that people
> (especially musicians) don't make the connection
> between tuning and the need for silence, which
> includes shuffling papers, whispering, or sometimes,
> breathing, but, on the other hand, why should they
> know.  There are times when the only course is to
> ask someone to desist,,,as politely as possible.  At
> other times, again, preparing for performance, other
> people may have jobs that have to get done.  Then it
> becomes a matter of determining what level of noise
> is essential for them to fulfill their
> responsibilities, and what part of the usual noise
> can, in this case be reasonably suppressed.
> 
>     Regarding the 2 or 3 people chatting vs. 15
> making noise, sometimes the few can be more
> annoying, to me.  A lot of the time it depends upon
> the need.  The 15 may have no choice but to carry
> on, to prepare for a show, while the 2 or 3 could
> probably take the conversation somewhere else.  I
> will not hesitate to enlighten someone for a few
> offenses:
> 
>     Unnecessary conversation or laughter
>     Singing- especially the note I'm tuning
>     Whistling, ESPECIALLY THE NOTE I'M TUNING
>     Jingling keys on a key ring
> 
>     No noise accepted for a recording session
> tuning.
> 
>     Otherwise, it's Show Business.
> 
> 
>     David Skolnik
> 
> 
> 
>     At 05:44 PM 11/10/2004 +0100, you wrote:
> 
>     Hi Patrick,
>      
>     This afternoon, I had to tune for a concert in a
> small hall.
>     I tuned the piano this morning, and had to check
> it another time when it was installed.
>     People started installing the stage for the
> choir (nearly 50 singers I think) just after I began
> checking everything.
>     Some notes were a little bit out of tune, I had
> to tune them correctly.
>     People were trailing the stage "blocks"
> everywhere and shouting at each other because they
> should have finished work sooner and people wanted
> to go back home.
>     I asked for silence, everything remained noisy
> all around me.
>     I decided to... go ;-)
>      
>     If they totally didn't care about my
> concentration and about what I was doing, that's
> because they 'd probably think the piano was good as
> it was.
>      
> 
>     and...
> 
> 
>     But don't you think people should realize that
> making a good tuning requires good conditions?
>      
>     There is a difference between 2 or 3 people
> chatting and 15 persons screaming and moving chairs
> and wood panels all around you while you're tuning !
>      
>     I think I would have preferred 2 or 3 people
> discussing in a normal way instead of this
> disturbing noises !
>      
>     Quentin
> 
> 
> 
>   friendly greetings
>   from
>   André Oorebeek
> 
>   "where Music is, no harm can be"
> 
> 


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