Why would you trouble yourself to take the ribs off a panel that has damage at the cellular level and then use it again with new ribs. Especially in the upper end of the piano where much of the stiffness is provided by the panel and not the ribs, this seems like folly to me. That panel you are trying to salvage bears no resemblance to the panel that was originally installed once it's gone through 100 years of expansion and contraction. David Love davidlovepianos@comcast.net -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of David Ilvedson Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 7:07 PM To: pianotech@ptg.org Subject: Re: poxy on soundboards and seminar in Bruxelles Since we don't typically do that here, I haven't had a chance to hear a re-crowned soundboard. I'd like to though... David Ilvedson ----- Original message ----------------------------------------> From: Richard Brekne <Richard.Brekne@grieg.uib.no> To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> Received: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 00:08:42 +0100 Subject: Re: poxy on soundboards and seminar in Bruxelles >antares wrote: >> >> >> >> The Truth ???? ... I like pre 1985 or so Steinways (Hamburgs) >> better then what I've seen come out since. D's C's, and B's all >> seem to have taken a turn towards the nasal since about then. Dont >> really know why... hear a lot of rumours.... but. >> >> Also... Seems to me that at best... that assumed <<bloom>> period >> is only good for a couple 2- 3 years anyways... by then the panel >> has settled in for its long term and its that what ends up being >> most important. >> >> >> In that case, you did not answer my question. you evade the truth, you >> deserve Nippon torture and I'll....... >> Just tell me again, with all the truth still existing in the deepest >> marrow of your left tiny toe : >> What do you like better .... a gorgeous 100 year old Steinway B, or a >> gorgeous 1984 Steinway B? >> >Ah... well... let me be more specific then... hehe.... I'd have to have >both pianoes in front of me before judging. Generally speaking the 1984 >will win out... but the very nicely preserved 1900 example that pops up >once in a while is a very very fine sounding instrument indeed... and at >that point terms like better and worse loose their meaning in favour of >terms like mellow, rich, full, sonorous.... etc. >None of which really addresses the point I brought up.... namely that I >do like the idea of recrowning an old panel by removing the old ribs >and rib crowing with new ones. I know I know... old wood, aged wood... >that whole discussion... but my ears like what it hears when this is >done, and they dont get that sound any place else... so what can I >say... Science just plain doesnt have all the answers yet... quite >probably because it has only stumbled upon a promile of a fraction of >the possible questions to ask in the first place. >My View, for whatever its worth. >Cheers >RicB >_______________________________________________ >pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives _______________________________________________ pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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