not what I signed up for

[David Andersen]

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>> Andre wrote:
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>> =B3OK bud,
>> but then, after having tuned aurally for the greater part of my life,
>> and, having been mauled and aurally sharpened by the Yamaha Acadamy, jus=
t
>> like you, I have come to the humiliating but also enlightening conclusio=
n
>> that my ETD gives me that very same result not in two hours time, like a=
t the
>> Academy, but in 45 minutes (or less) every time, every day, and especial=
ly on
>> every instrument.You know me personally, you surely would not suggest th=
at I
>> don't know what I am talking about? (Although, I have already learned th=
at in
>> this life, anything is possible).
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>> I will keep thinking, and saying, that nowadays we finally have
>> extremely efficient ETD's.To me, an efficient ETD tells me personally
>> about pitch, nothing else.
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>> It helps me tuning the strings at the most compromised pitch.
>> The making of tone, is a different matter and far more important,
>> because most people can not tell the difference whether a 5th is almost
>> perfect, or not.
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>> Over and out.
>> friendly greetings....=B2
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>> My friend----this of course is what makes the world go =8Cround; I have ne=
ver
>> used a machine, never felt any urge to. Loved to tune from the first pia=
no.
>> Never had any of the angst you describe around achieving an =B3ideal=B2 tuni=
ng.
>> So---I can have big fun, and accomplish a tuning I=B9ll put up against
>> anybody=B9s, in between 1 and 1.5 hours; the temperament is ideal for that
>> piano; the stretch is ideal for that piano.
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>> =B3The making of tone, is a different matter and far more important,
>> because most people can not tell the difference whether a 5th is almost
>> perfect, or not.=B2
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>> True.  BUT---most artists, most serious players who actually LISTEN when=
 they
>> play, can tell the difference when a piano is tuned really, really well,=
 and
>> sounds musical and singing in all keys.  I have no doubt whatsoever that=
 your
>> tunings sound this way, that they are the product of your impeccable cra=
ft
>> and love. You will never get any argument or pushback from me about usin=
g a
>> machine when you are an experienced, ear-based, voicing tuner & tech.
>> Whatever makes you happy and productive. Here=B9s what I know: doing
>> single-mute, aural, whole-tone, open-string tuning has exponentially exp=
anded
>> my ear=B9s ability to remember piano tone, and made me a better voicer; it=
=B9s
>> made me a MUCH better unison tuner, much more precise.  The precision I=B9=
m
>> able to achieve with this method has overflowed into my other skill
>> sets---voicing and regulation. I=B9m so much more precise with both, and t=
rust
>> my intuition, my =B3first thought=B2 much more than I did when I still used =
a
>> strip mute.
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>> Love this thread, love this work; getting=B9 excited about Sacramento...ha=
ve a
>> great weekend.....
>>=20
>> David Andersen



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